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There are permanently mounted, electrically operated bilge pumps out there.  Never looked into pricing/ mounting logistics/ longevity in salt, but they do exist.
I'd prefer a permanently-installed hand-operated pump, or a port in the gunwale of my kayak for using a hand-operated pump.  Using a bilge pump should be a rare emergency operation.  I don't want to worry about keeping a battery-operated pump charged and operational.  And I really don't want to hit the bilge pump switch and have nothing happen.

Having a bilge pump sounds great but how would you use it.I have an ultra 4.7, mgmt hatch is way in the front.I can't image opening it and taking out the water while in the water....??
Why can't you open the "rod pod" hatch between your legs and pump water out of it while sitting in your seat?
I don't have access to the inside....only from hatch in front.....not sure if I would be able to use it while on water


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not sure if it has been mentioned, but when purchasing a pump, look for one with a stainless steel rod over plastic. Both will work, but I have seen the plastic ones bend and fail over time. This was from a rental inventory where they got used & abused daily.

I store mine in my 2003 Tarpon 140 in the small round hatch behind the seat. I have put a padeye inside the hull directly beneath the above deck padeye (just used longer SS bolts) next to the hatch, and then put a small loop of cord through the padeye. My pump is attached to the cord with one of those little fastex keychains. I tried accessing it while on land and could do so, and then i DID need it on the water once and the system worked just as it should have.

1. reached into the hatch, located the pump via the tether
2. felt down the tether to the fastex buckle, popped it
3. removed pump from hull & used it.
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  I have toyed with the idea of installing a "Bilge Pump" in my Outback, (Sadly though I don't use it enough at the moment :smt009) anyway, I have a small 12VDC self-priming water pump I purchased for a RC model fire boat back in the 80's  it was going to supply water to all its water monitors.   Don't recall what the pump is rated at now, but it will move water.  My plan, is to take a length of copper or brass tube in 1/4" or 3/8" dia, drill holes in the tube, then attach to the outback's hull where water would pool.  Then plumb the pumps inlet to the now drain tube, the other end plumb to a bulkhead fitting through the hull to exhaust water. 
  Since I always have a 7hr gel cell powering my FF I'll use it to power the pump.  Wire a water proof switch somewhere, maybe inside the hull that's easily reached from the center hatch?  I also have a few LED strip lights I plan to wire in.
  That's my plan, weather or not I actually do it?  Time will tell. 


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We use this one, it has a metal rod and can pump water 10 feet away:  https://www.austinkayak.com/products/1464/AquaBound-BilgeMaster-Kayak-Bilge-Pump.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping:%20ACK%20PLA&scid=scplp286290&gclid=CjwKEAjw0NytBRD-1d3QsdHNpR0SJACGXqgRFOmRzf6qz5YHhMjUCIkDVIHuF-J3uEnyTvCZzq_LXBoCw17w_wcB

Hey now.  In this thread you claim it shoots water 15' away.  Which one is it?  :smt003  :smt002

Either way, I just purchased two.  One for each yak.  They should be here before Albion.

For some stupid reason, I never made it a priority.  :smt011

I am 3 years older now. Can't pump as hard. Hehehe.. :smt003
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Several years ago I had a crack develop in my hull while OTW, since I was in a slough in the delta I made my way to shore and emptied it, it was near sinking within the 20 min it took to get back to the launch.

At that point I had neither a bilge pump or a hull full of noodles,

Cobra replaced the boat and the maiden voyage was out in Tomales Bay, still slow to learn I had no pump or noodles, after about 45 min I decided to check below deck, S**t, an inch or so of water, being cautious I ended the day, took awhile but I found a tiny hole up inside a scupper where the 2 halves of the mold came together, didn't find any other flaws so melted it shut and no more problems.

I now have a hull full of noodles, a pump, and a spare paddle, never leave home without them.

With the crack, a pump wouldn't have been much help, it was filling too fast, but with noodles, you're never gonna go down.


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Several years ago I had a crack develop in my hull while OTW, since I was in a slough in the delta I made my way to shore and emptied it, it was near sinking within the 20 min it took to get back to the launch.

At that point I had neither a bilge pump or a hull full of noodles,

Cobra replaced the boat and the maiden voyage was out in Tomales Bay, still slow to learn I had no pump or noodles, after about 45 min I decided to check below deck, S**t, an inch or so of water, being cautious I ended the day, took awhile but I found a tiny hole up inside a scupper where the 2 halves of the mold came together, didn't find any other flaws so melted it shut and no more problems.

I now have a hull full of noodles, a pump, and a spare paddle, never leave home without them.

With the crack, a pump wouldn't have been much help, it was filling too fast, but with noodles, you're never gonna go down.
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There are permanently mounted, electrically operated bilge pumps out there.  Never looked into pricing/ mounting logistics/ longevity in salt, but they do exist.
I'd prefer a permanently-installed hand-operated pump, or a port in the gunwale of my kayak for using a hand-operated pump.  Using a bilge pump should be a rare emergency operation.  I don't want to worry about keeping a battery-operated pump charged and operational.  And I really don't want to hit the bilge pump switch and have nothing happen.

Having a bilge pump sounds great but how would you use it.I have an ultra 4.7, mgmt hatch is way in the front.I can't image opening it and taking out the water while in the water....??
Why can't you open the "rod pod" hatch between your legs and pump water out of it while sitting in your seat?
I don't have access to the inside....only from hatch in front.....not sure if I would be able to use it while on water

Fill your boat with pool noodles. Keep a pump in the front hatch. In the event you need to use it, you will just have to get wet and do it from the bow while in the water.
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There are permanently mounted, electrically operated bilge pumps out there.  Never looked into pricing/ mounting logistics/ longevity in salt, but they do exist.
I'd prefer a permanently-installed hand-operated pump, or a port in the gunwale of my kayak for using a hand-operated pump.  Using a bilge pump should be a rare emergency operation.  I don't want to worry about keeping a battery-operated pump charged and operational.  And I really don't want to hit the bilge pump switch and have nothing happen.

Having a bilge pump sounds great but how would you use it.I have an ultra 4.7, mgmt hatch is way in the front.I can't image opening it and taking out the water while in the water....??
Why can't you open the "rod pod" hatch between your legs and pump water out of it while sitting in your seat?
I don't have access to the inside....only from hatch in front.....not sure if I would be able to use it while on water

Fill your boat with pool noodles. Keep a pump in the front hatch. In the event you need to use it, you will just have to get wet and do it from the bow while in the water.

+1...or your buddy can do it for you...

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There are permanently mounted, electrically operated bilge pumps out there.  Never looked into pricing/ mounting logistics/ longevity in salt, but they do exist.
I'd prefer a permanently-installed hand-operated pump, or a port in the gunwale of my kayak for using a hand-operated pump.  Using a bilge pump should be a rare emergency operation.  I don't want to worry about keeping a battery-operated pump charged and operational.  And I really don't want to hit the bilge pump switch and have nothing happen.

Also some foot-operated ones that SIK'ers use.



Wouldn't be too hard to adapt a hand pump to this idea.
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When you need it, you REALLY NEED it! I needed it once and didn't have it.  Paddling back in with a swamped kayak is much harder than you might think.  The sloshing water inside the hull will make you very unbalanced.  It's an essential part of your kayak safety gear, and one should never leave home without it.
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I brought one OTW with me for years before I ever needed to use it. Then I had to use it 3X in 2 months! (to help other kayakers) Mine is stashed inside the hull with my telescoping paddle...tied with rope so it's always accessible.
http://www.kayakfishingmagazine.net/articles/102-current-issue-featured-articles-on-kayak-fishing/1491-pumpkuhl.html

I like the idea of a foot-operated bilge pump, like SIKs use. But not the fancy Henderson/Bosworth/Guzzler style. I'm intrigued by the simple diaphram style pumps. So I wouldn't have to open any hatches in potentially-dangerous conditions.
https://www.gurneygears.com/rapid-flow-bilge-pump



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Thanks for the feedback everyone. I wish I packed mine with me. I try my best to carry a vhf, cell phone, epirb and bilge pump on every launch. Shoot and I guess now, a pfd. You just never know where the day is going to take you.

Will need to get a replacement bilge pump up here. That thing came in handy a couple times for me.



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  I think your PFD should have been listed first, before your VHF.  That's just me though..... :smt006


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Yes for sure. Even had to use it in an almost emergency. Don't leave without it.
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