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Topic: Fishing Line for inshore/salt water fishing  (Read 2923 times)

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Rock hopper wouldn't that damage the part where you tie the mono to the braid when you have to reel in?


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Rock hopper wouldn't that damage the part where you tie the mono to the braid when you have to reel in?

I'm sorry, I don't understand your question.

The two lines are connected by a uni to uni knot that goes through the guides easily. I've never had any issues with the braid damaging the mono and for the last 8 or so years that I've been using the combo I've only had one fish break me off.....and I fish lings/rockfish ~24 times a year. If you use your drag correctly 17lb mono is fine for Nor-Cal saltwater, unless you plan on targetting salmon or threshers a lot. Even then I'd only step up to 20 or 25lb mono for the leader.

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15lb p-line or 17-20lb Ande and call it a day. 

 
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Rock hopper wouldn't that damage the part where you tie the mono to the braid when you have to reel in?

I'm sorry, I don't understand your question.

The two lines are connected by a uni to uni knot that goes through the guides easily. I've never had any issues with the braid damaging the mono and for the last 8 or so years that I've been using the combo I've only had one fish break me off.....and I fish lings/rockfish ~24 times a year. If you use your drag correctly 17lb mono is fine for Nor-Cal saltwater, unless you plan on targetting salmon or threshers a lot. Even then I'd only step up to 20 or 25lb mono for the leader.
I've heard of guys using a little dab of 'super glue' to keep it tight as well as make it more "aerodynamic".  Heard of this?  Do this?  Pro/Con?


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I would need to get a bigger rod to handle heavy weights. My phenix rod can't handle heavy weights like that.

What were you fishing for, dune12?
out of Santa Cruz fishing from 50'-120' of water for kings and rockfish.I tie a teaser fly about a foot from my jig.but on average im only using 3oz jigs if the current is not bad
My biggest worry is that my wife(when I'm dead)will sell my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it


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Rock hopper wouldn't that damage the part where you tie the mono to the braid when you have to reel in?

I'm sorry, I don't understand your question.

The two lines are connected by a uni to uni knot that goes through the guides easily. I've never had any issues with the braid damaging the mono and for the last 8 or so years that I've been using the combo I've only had one fish break me off.....and I fish lings/rockfish ~24 times a year. If you use your drag correctly 17lb mono is fine for Nor-Cal saltwater, unless you plan on targetting salmon or threshers a lot. Even then I'd only step up to 20 or 25lb mono for the leader.
I tie up the same way whenever I feel the need for a top shot never had a problem
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Rock hopper wouldn't that damage the part where you tie the mono to the braid when you have to reel in?

I'm sorry, I don't understand your question.

The two lines are connected by a uni to uni knot that goes through the guides easily. I've never had any issues with the braid damaging the mono and for the last 8 or so years that I've been using the combo I've only had one fish break me off.....and I fish lings/rockfish ~24 times a year. If you use your drag correctly 17lb mono is fine for Nor-Cal saltwater, unless you plan on targetting salmon or threshers a lot. Even then I'd only step up to 20 or 25lb mono for the leader.
I've heard of guys using a little dab of 'super glue' to keep it tight as well as make it more "aerodynamic".  Heard of this?  Do this?  Pro/Con?
yeah I've heard of it but most guys that do that use 2speed reels
My biggest worry is that my wife(when I'm dead)will sell my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it


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Rock hopper you answered my question. My question was referring to the strength of the knot and how it is affected by the rod guides when reeling in fish.

What brand other than power pro do you guys use for braid? And same setup for halibuts too?
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I have tried other spectra but powerpro is my favorite. I use the metered spectra 50# double uni or Pena to a 30# short mono or fluoro leader. Contrary to what some have said, straight 40# mono hung up in deep water is almost impossible to break off in a kayak unless you are a he-man like Abking.  :smt005 I use this for rockfish and deep water halibut. For shallow water halibut I run 30# spectra backing with a long 20-25# mono leader.
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Short mono leaders are easier to break off tied to spectra than long ones. A foot of mono has limited stretch, ten feet quite a bit more. I like a foot for the jig and six inches for a hoochie or fly above the jig and usually use 30#test. Plenty strong for fish and breakable when need be.
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Rock hopper you answered my question. My question was referring to the strength of the knot and how it is affected by the rod guides when reeling in fish.

What brand other than power pro do you guys use for braid? And same setup for halibuts too?
see if one of these nice senior members or someone who fishes the salt alot and just get on the water and see if thell let you tryout a few setups.its not like fly fishing or bass fishing its not really that technical. Most of us use powerpro cause its one of a few braids thats not too rough on your rod guides.the cheaper stuff will sound and feel like sand paper going thru your guides.I dont buy power pro unless its on sale.and when it is I stock up enough for a year use or more pending if I have money.
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I generally go a bit lighter but similar to the others, generally 20-30 # braid, 20-25 # mono leader. I find that I hang up less with lighter line due to more vertical drop when there is a faster drift. Still get rocked by big lings occasionally but it seems that with more vert drop you can get them headed up faster than when there is a lot of scope due to drift. As everyone says, anything over 25-30 lb can get interesting when hung up if there is any sea at all


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I will be geared by summer for salt water trips. Would be glad to join any seniors in here if they will to teach, I am willing to learn.


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X2 on the braided, even 50 to 60 lb you are much more directly feeling what's happening than with mono. But mono for sure to break off at jig end, something like 30 lb.


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30 #   leader        are  you trying to stop a blue fin in a kayak ?
 15 t0 20# leader i lose a few jigs but thats a price ill pay
heavier for abrasion resistence i can understand.
i myself like the lighter lines.
if i could figure out how to jig a 3 ounce weight on 8#pound line
i would be all over it.