CA planning to ban lead fishing tackle

I wonder how much a dozen jig heads ranging from 3-12 oz in tungsten would cost[emoji1]

Holy crap, we're gonna end up with $20 3oz jigheads.   I'm never bottom fishing with that.   

I wonder how much a dozen jig heads ranging from 3-12 oz in tungsten would cost[emoji1]

Holy crap, we're gonna end up with $20 3oz jigheads.   I'm never bottom fishing with that.   

that's not that bad.worm sinkers that bass fisherman use for punching cost about 15$ 1-1/2 oz

Gee I don't think about lost lead weights ever! What I do think about a lot is all the toxic runoff from cars and trucks on 80 going straight into the bay. the you have the hills around the bay area. All runoff from storm drains going into the bay with all kinds of garbage and more toxic run off from oil and tire and brake dust. the few lead weight that are dropped in the ocean is fucking miniscule. Who's to say it just not sitting there doing nothing. Its not getting ingested. Fucking bullshit

Necessity is the mother of invention.

How about a tungsten jighead with a replaceable light wire hook? Something that'll bend out if you get hung up, but sturdy enough to land your target species. Simply bend the hook back (or swap it out) and you're back to fishing without loosing expensive tungsten.

Necessity is the mother of invention.

How about a tungsten jighead with a replaceable light wire hook? Something that'll bend out if you get hung up, but sturdy enough to land your target species. Simply bend the hook back (or swap it out) and you're back to fishing without loosing expensive tungsten.

I use bendable bronze hooks on most of my bottom fishing gear and still manage to lose them occasionally.



I'm with you Craig.....all that lead on the sea floor is doing exactly what naturally occurring lead deposits are doing throughout the rest of the globe.  The only people that care about it are scientist looking to get paid, people who hate fishing and hunting and wish to end it all and misguided hippies.

Right...I always thought that lead in solid form wasn't "toxic".  Does anyone remember biting split shot as a kid?  I sure do.

Isn't the problem with lead when it's in a more soluble form, like in paint?  I'm no chemist, but this has always been my understanding.

Get the "straight dope" here.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2188/do-lead-fishing-sinkers-threaten-the-environment

Right...I always thought that lead in solid form wasn't "toxic".  Does anyone remember biting split shot as a kid?  I sure do.

Isn't the problem with lead when it's in a more soluble form, like in paint?  I'm no chemist, but this has always been my understanding.

Solid lead in the mouth may not be too harmful but after it is injested stomach acids dissolve it into ionic forms that are toxic to the different organs and tissues.

Anybody found a good source of Lead tire balancing weights lately? They seem to be hard to find 

I Zod Out

Anybody found a good source of Lead tire balancing weights lately? They seem to be hard to find 

I Zod Out

apparently the ocean floor has an abundance.

I'm with Dave on this but remember that downriggers use lead balls too.

You can buy cast iron DR balls. I've got one of these (4 Lb) and it seems to work well off the kayak.
http://www.basspro.com/Cast-Iron-Downrigger-Weights/product/120829053305331/

I was going to go to this, but not going to make it now.

Its way cool how one eagle with " lead poisoning" (can we see the lab results?)  can cause lead to be banned. But the green wind turbines that kill 1-5 eagles each a year  are fine to use and not a problem. WTF? If its green its wonderful - if its used in a gun lets ban it. Thanks Jerry!

One would have to have their head in the sand to not know about lead poisoning in our state and damage to many species and to children as when pregnant women or small children inject fish with lead or water with lead in it they suffer permanent irreversible brain damage. Check out the EPA site on lead paint that was banned for use in the 1970's but still affects millions of children today.

As was mentioned there has long been the alternatives of mooching or using downriggers to catch salmon. What has been damaging salmon fishing for decades is all the republicans that sold out the fishing industry and allowing huge diversions of water to the publicly subsidized canals to benefit the large corporate farms. The ironic part is that the water goes into growing potatoes, alfalfa, cheese, lettuce, strawberries, etc. which are then shipped out of the state and often out of the country. We are still actively exporting water and I see no efforts by the farmers trying to conserve water. For them it is business as usual if they have their allotment or use ground water which is not regulated in any way shape or form in this state. Even Texas regulates ground water pumping which shows how much of a rogue agribusiness culture we have in California.

I worry more about future generations having fish that they can actually catch and can actually eat. I have seen the tremendous decline in salmon and rock fish populations in Monterey Bay over the past 20 years. It costs more to take a boat out rockfishing than to go out for salmon, the exact opposite of the pricing before the rock fish were populations were decimated to the point where it will take a century for them to recover back to 1970 levels.   

Well said, elkhornson.

FYI, Jerry Brown recently signed groundwater legislation. A step in the right direction if you ask me.

His tunnel idea is a whole other story...

Can someone post a legit. report that shows these high levels of lead in ocean, lakes, etc. and the effects it has on fish?  I know we have issues with mercury in the lakes but that has 0% to do with fishing.