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   What a huge pain in the ass!  My roof has 3 separate asphalt layers plus roof felt layer!  The very first layer of roof felt is so old, it seems to be part of the roof deck (3\8" ply not 1\2 or 5\8"!)  The last layer comes off pretty quickly, but the original (First) layer is a bioootch to remove!  There are so many roofing nails of which 2/3s of them are rusted!
   After removing the 6 tarps of plastic sheets (Protection from the recent rains). I grabbed my pitch fork and started lifting shingles today when I got home from work.  I have a pile of crap shingles 3 feet deep and I've only have roughly 100square feet stripped so far.  Got 1360sq ft to removed ;-\
  I knew this would be a huge job, but DAMN!
 Its gonna take a month just to haul the crap from the roof away!
  I'll hit my roof each day hen I gt home, work my through it eventually.


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Now it is sure to rain more!

Good luck with that PITA


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:smt006
   What a huge pain in the ass!  My roof has 3 separate asphalt layers plus roof felt layer!  The very first layer of roof felt is so old, it seems to be part of the roof deck (3\8" ply not 1\2 or 5\8"!)  The last layer comes off pretty quickly, but the original (First) layer is a bioootch to remove!  There are so many roofing nails of which 2/3s of them are rusted!
   After removing the 6 tarps of plastic sheets (Protection from the recent rains). I grabbed my pitch fork and started lifting shingles today when I got home from work.  I have a pile of crap shingles 3 feet deep and I've only have roughly 100square feet stripped so far.  Got 1360sq ft to removed ;-\
  I knew this would be a huge job, but DAMN!
 Its gonna take a month just to haul the crap from the roof away!
  I'll hit my roof each day hen I gt home, work my through it eventually.
It seems like it took forever to pick up the old shingles & nails & such when we did our roof.  Hauling it was a PITA!!!!  Then you are lift with all those rusted nails laying everywhere.  I swear they could fly 100' away from the house.


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done many many roofs.....it is super hard ,every step of the way is hard work...even the last shingles are hard work...never feels good until it is all the way done...wear the tips of your fingers right off...it will work better than any diet out there though...anywhere from  two to ten roofs a year and you will be an animal  :smt003
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I recommend a mask, Jeeper.  There's lots of nasty crap in that old roofing.

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Sounds like you're dealing with a lot of deferred maintenance there. That Jobs a bitch one way or the other. But it could be worse . . .

I had a contractor start a reroofing job yesterday. He got his guys on the job site started tearing off the old roof then went in to pick up the permit and found that the next-door neighbor Who is a lawyer connected to the city has blocked the permit. They won't approve the permit until a $100,000+ retaining wall is built in the backyard.
Now I've got a tenant in a house without a roof and no choice but to build the roof without a permit and hope the city doesn't demanded it be removed.


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Nice neighbor.....we have an ahole on our street as well

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  Is a beotch for sure right now.  Can someone explain why anyone would use 3/8" ply for roof deck?  The front side (Pictured) the decking is 3/8"s ply?  WTF?  The back side is 1/2".   Anyhow, I have some wood to replace.  Another concern I have now is, getting some new flashing for the pipe that has my house power going into it.  The current flashing is rusted and full of holes, so I have to replace it.  Has to be cut out.  Is there some kind of "Clamshell" flashing (2 parts) available or will I have to find some pipe flashing, cut it to fit then seal it?  I have aluminum tape for the metal parts, not to crazy about splitting any rubber seals though! Haven't had a chance to hit HD or ACE for this power pole flashing yet.  Hopefully there's something available?
  The pile of crap can probably fill my pickup bed now, and I've just started! :smt010
Still need to get my drip edges, will need 10 lengths (5 front, 5 on the back) and a hammer tacker for the roofing paper.
  Oh and material for flashing for the skylights, and step flashing for the sides and chimney.
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yep that is how it goes....once in while you get lucky and can get a section pried up and then get under it and roll and pull with shovels and have big chunks come off...but with the chimney and sky lights and roof flashing pipes you really are about right where your supposed to be...3/8 ply is cheap and lighter...but really 1/2 is almost too thin too...unless your rafters are 16 on center or you use roof clips...if you do cut a roof flashing just buy two and cut the  one to go over the top of the fist with the cut going down hill on the top one...see if you can get some sticky sided flashing tape around the lights and dont nail the last nail as the shingles get laid around the lights(nails closer to the light leave off...the shingles will self glue and not shift as long as they are nailed on the one side some....you know all this i'm sure...the only picture I found on a quick search shows step flashing a skylight .but the top flashing shown could be made from flashing tape and the bottom-then the sides then the top piece -in that order is important
« Last Edit: April 16, 2014, 11:48:32 AM by trianglelaguna »
We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.

I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center.

People aren’t supposed to look back. I’m certainly not going to do it anymore.”
― Kurt Vonnegut


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maybe those are panels and not sky lights in the middle now that I look closer
We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.

I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center.

People aren’t supposed to look back. I’m certainly not going to do it anymore.”
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Those roofing nails are a bitch when it comes to flat tires. They always seem to end up in tires due to the larger head they have. I would recommend getting a roller magnet and walk it around a fair distance after the job is done. I have been a general contractor for almost 30 years and 90% of the nails in my tires have been roofing nails. No harm done leaving that stuck layer of felt unless you have soft spots to replace. I too agree with buying two roof jacks for the power pole drop. just be careful around those power lines with metal handled tools. Btw, what type of roofing are you installing?
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  Triangle, I do have solar panels on the roof, (up high)soon to be moving them, the lower squares are skylights, and apparently incorrect ones for this type of roof.  Was told by local roofing company that they are for Flat roof's.  Too late to do anything about them now. The frames for the skylights extend up from the roof deck maybe 2"? 3" would be pushing it!  So, I'll have to bend each step flashing.  Currently, the ones not removed yet are glued in with roof jack or something similar, and are a biscuit to remove! but thanks for the step flashing picture!
  Sasquatch, I have 45 bundles of 3 tab asphalt from Home depot " Royal Sovereign" 25yr somethingorother.  and yes, some of the wood under the remaining felt, comes up with the paper, so I'll be replacing some.  Roof jacks?  That's what there called!  Now I can look for them. Thanks.  Oh the power lines are insulated, and wrapped.  Otherwise, I'd have permanently curly hair by now!  :smt044

  For the power pole flashing, you recommend getting two roof jacks (Proper sized)both will need to be cut to install due to the live power lines feeding the house, and have one cut facing down hill on the bottom to be covered by un cut top flashing, the top flashing having the cut facing up and the un-cut solid portion covering the cut on the lower flashing.  The top flashing, I can tape up with my aluminum tape (HVAC stuff) and then have shingles cover it?  I think I see now.
  My plan before now was to cut up just one side, whatever it was I found to allow placement around the 1.5" pipe, and placing the cut end on the downhill facing side, and use the metal tape to seal it.  Didn't want a cut facing up, but I guess it won't matter, a cut is a cut facing up or down.  Will still need to be sealed really well. These roof jacks seem inexpensive, HD @$6? Hopefully I can find something to work!
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I hope you have tarps all around your house to catch all the nails that roll off.
Before you go any farther you might want to rent a large dumpster, park it near the roof so you can slide all that crap directly into it.
If you know of a place that has people standing out front looking for a days work I'd swing by there and get 3-5 guys. It's worth the $$ and time and pain saved.
Also get a rolling magnet for going around your house to pick up all the nails you thought you already got. You'll be amazed at how many you missed, over 100 easy.
I had 3 layers on the main section and 4 over the garage from the previous owner.
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Those solar panels can kill...use caution when removing to get to the roof below...solar panels are live when exposed to the sun and potentially carry excess load even when not exposed to the sun. 


 

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