Whats your take in Immigration Reform?

Someone needs to help pay for Yees defense fund!

Wow! Nice read.. Heres my thoughts and some statistics input...

John Legal vs Juan Illegal

Your thoughts and statistics look familiar. I've read this scenario a few times over the years.

Google " John Legal vs Juan Illegal "

Yup same articles

something stole ..will  never belong to anyone but it's original owner.....no matter who has something at the time...it belongs to whomever it belongs and only them.....and the wheel of life finds it's own balance.....maybe these invaders that  seem to  "dont pay up" or dont "do things the right way"...maybe they are just another part the wheel finding center....it will always find center again......

like stealing a car then being mad cause the next folks dont drive it careful.....brainwashed...history is long..longer than shifting borders or broken treaties or even our little run of shiting in the sandbox....

Sorry, but this is simply inaccurate. The Social Security Administration. reports that 75 % of illegal immigrants are on formal payroll and paying taxes mainly by using fraudulent SS#. Theres also many that have individual filing #s from the irs (the irs goes not report these to Dept of Homeland Security. Of course the illegals get very few of the benefits of paying taxes. In addition, they also pay sales tax, property tax via rents.

I doubt its 75%, Most of the illegals doesn't work in corporate businesses, specially now that there's E-Verify. The I-9 has been modified to verify a persons identity.

I also believe that illegals do not work in corporate.

Do you think that this 75% does not affect you - you are wrong!

here is two examples from my experience:
1. my father lost all benefits during chemotherapy - thanks to lady working in house cleaning in So.Cal ... we had nightmare for 2 weeks - right now we have same "excises" every 2 years, thanks to cops and SS administration who opened cases but did not let them go.
2. my coworker lost chance for low interest refinancing due to somebody uses his wife social security ....

i can continue ....


choose any of situation for yourselves and decide if you support illegal immigration.... 

Sorry, but this is simply inaccurate. The Social Security Administration. reports that 75 % of illegal immigrants are on formal payroll and paying taxes mainly by using fraudulent SS#. Theres also many that have individual filing #s from the irs (the irs goes not report these to Dept of Homeland Security. Of course the illegals get very few of the benefits of paying taxes. In addition, they also pay sales tax, property tax via rents.

I doubt its 75%, Most of the illegals doesn't work in corporate businesses, specially now that there's E-Verify. The I-9 has been modified to verify a persons identity.

I also believe that illegals do not work in corporate.

Do you think that this 75% does not affect you - you are wrong!

here is two examples from my experience:
1. my father lost all benefits during chemotherapy - thanks to lady working in house cleaning in So.Cal ... we had nightmare for 2 weeks - right now we have same "excises" every 2 years, thanks to cops and SS administration who opened cases but did not let them go.
2. my coworker lost chance for low interest refinancing due to somebody uses his wife social security ....

i can continue ....


choose any of situation for yourselves and decide if you support illegal immigration....

Igor,

I apologize if you misunderstood me. I just think 75% was a little high. I do agree that there are people become victims of fraud SSS, its devastating to anyone whose identity is stolen. Once the damage is done most are irreparable. This is why the immigration reforms need to be address. Otherwise, there will be more dad will lose benefits or friends who may be denied to refinance. We cannot prevent illegal immigrants who come to US to hope for better future for their family. But we can hope the government will do the right thing.

Thanks.
 

Darius,

as step #1 of the reform should be more seriously protection of our borders and not only tight security at airports
#2 we need to use seasonal visas for agriculture support.

immigration amnesty should take place only after we tight security at our borders otherwise as it was mentioned already we'll see another huge wave of illegal immigration.

unfortunately, illegal immigration leads to waves of crimes and etc...

it's crazy topic - I know what it takes to see instability everyday and look for any possibility to make extra penny because you do not know what to expect tomorrow. i spent about 7 years trying to get to US legally and I never considered any illegal moves. I would like that reform bring change and may be simplify visa process.

Darius,

as step #1 of the reform should be more seriously protection of our borders and not only tight security at airports
#2 we need to use seasonal visas for agriculture support.

immigration amnesty should take place only after we tight security at our borders otherwise as it was mentioned already we'll see another huge wave of illegal immigration.

unfortunately, illegal immigration leads to waves of crimes and etc...

it's crazy topic - I know what it takes to see instability everyday and look for any possibility to make extra penny because you do not know what to expect tomorrow. i spent about 7 years trying to get to US legally and I never considered any illegal moves. I would like that reform bring change and may be simplify visa process.

Amen! There should be H1-B visa that exclusively for skilled workers, and Yes Seasonal workers, like other countries visa's expire after 2 years, they MUST return to their originated country, otherwise, they will loose the privilege.

I work with many people who has H1 visas and they either extend it and get green card eventually or leave - but we are hightech ppl....

Well geez triangleaguna, do you think we should just open up the borders and let everyone in all the time?

Would be a great idea, especially with all the crystal meth that's cooked down south. That would be awesome for our country!

Putting aside ethnicity, California at some point won't be able to support the population. California is what it is because of agriculture and we cover our prime earth with Starbucks, condos and strip malls.

 I drove down to Salinas a couple years ago and checked out the little house on a ranch inbetween Salinas and Castrovile that I spent the first 5 years of my life in. I was surprised to see asphalt and condos stretching about halfway out San Jon Rd., which used to be artichokes for miles.

Pretty soon it will all look like L.A. or Bakersfield or Fresno or East Bay, etc, etc. The price of food, water, livestock, property will keep skyrocketing, etc., etc.  Too many rats, too small of a cage, then the virus hits.

We aren't going to stop mother earth giving herself an enema. There really isn't anything we can do to stop it, so it seems to me that this topic is useless.

LOL China has done more to try and curtail population boom than any other country i know of...

   History shows we have always blamed the immigrants for all the ills of this country.     The Irish,  Germans,  Chinese,,, for years  now it's the Mexicans.   
       People who blame immigrants for the loss of jobs, should look within.       For every one of those 11 - 12 million illegals ,   at least that many more jobs have been exported with this  "Free Trade" status Congress approved. 
    There was a time we had choices between American or Chinese made products on our shelves.    Each time you pick an import off a shelf,,, YOU send another American worker to the unemployment line.   
    All these corporations who grew profitable  over the years on the backs of American labor have learned it was " OK" to send your jobs overseas.   You'll buy their brand ,,, because;  we just don't make the connection;  don't care,  or as is the case today,,, we just don't have a choice anymore. 
     I remember all the arguments for Free Trade.   " It will boost american exports " .   Corporations whined they can't compete, unless they move manufacturing overseas.
   Bullshit !  It's all bull...
         When they say they can't " compete"  they mean  they can't pay their CEO the same multi-billion dollar salary the other guy is getting...      These corporate exec's who reap all the profits, don't want to employ American's,,, they just want your dollars.       American jobs were about the only thing we boosted exports of.

     How did this country get this way???     Blame it on Lobbyist, corruption of government, lack of ethics, lack of patriotism,  Greed !      30 years ago there were only a handful of  Lobbyists  in Washington.    Today it's a thriving industry, serving nearly every country around the globe,,, including Russia.     WTF ?      Call it what it is... LEGALIZED BRIBERY OF OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES.   
      I'd like to see everyone of them who voted for this " Free Trade"  get lined up and shot for treason to their country.  Our congress should only have the ear of their constituents.  Period !     Not every conniving thief ( lawyer ) with cash in hand and a plan on how to graft more taxpayer dollars .      This congress that has put us  17 Trillion Dollars in debt...!   

      We've gone from a manufacturing industry, to a service industry.   The top ten states with economic growth are all service related jobs.     In my lifetime I've watched the steel mills shutdown.  Industrial zones are like old ghost towns with broken out windows and rusted frames.     Who's left to pay the taxes that build our infrastructure ?    Hell,,,, we had to import most of the SF Bay Bridge from China.      All those huge Gantry cranes at the ship docks,,, built and imported from China...       I've watched 6-8 container ships / day move into the SF Bay, loaded.   They go back out with empty containers...     
  BTW,,,  That's   Communist China,,,  #1 ally to N. Korea,   Great human rights advocate.    Friend of the American consumer...
     
     Illegals wouldn't be an issue today if we still had product labeled  " Made in USA "   on our store shelves.
     

Interesting idea!

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