Mooch was watching over us, or teaching us a lesson...

If I'm reaching left, I drop my left leg over the side. If I really have to get into the back I drop both legs on the same side and sit side saddle.

Glad you are both OK, water and food help for cramps, and if that doesn't work try these....
Hylands leg cramps, small bottle to carry on-board, dissolve a couple under the tongue if you start to feel crampy.

Good info Tim! I had never heard of such a pill. But I may have to buy a bottle now....my wife gets mad when I use all the Midol...

Good info Tim! I had never heard of such a pill. But I may have to buy a bottle now....my wife gets mad when I use all the Midol...

you're just taking that for fun!

I use bungee cords on my leashes. but if not for them I would have lost my rods. so how do I put big ole pool noodles on my low profile bass gear without getting in the way of casting. maybe I can try putting them on the split grip section. will try it out.

vin

so how do I put big ole pool noodles on my low profile bass gear without getting in the way of casting. maybe I can try putting them on the split grip section. will try it out.

vin

Vin, I made a write up on this some time ago. But, all you have to do is make a slit/channel on the outside of the pool noodle where your rod will sit. You do NOT need to wrap your rod with the noodles. It can be attached next to it or outside. Cut the noodle to size. I usually use longer ones for my saltwater setup because I use heavier jigs (wanna make sure everything floats). Then finish it off with a couple of zip ties on both ends. I use an extra one in the middle if I'm using longer noodles. Voila! Cast all day with your low profile bass gears without any problems. Here's a few pics. Hope it helps.

Good info Tim! I had never heard of such a pill. But I may have to buy a bottle now....my wife gets mad when I use all the Midol...

you're just taking that for fun!

What he said 

so how do I put big ole pool noodles on my low profile bass gear without getting in the way of casting. maybe I can try putting them on the split grip section. will try it out.

vin

Vin, I made a write up on this some time ago. But, all you have to do is make a slit/channel on the outside of the pool noodle where your rod will sit. You do NOT need to wrap your rod with the noodles. It can be attached next to it or outside. Cut the noodle to size. I usually use longer ones for my saltwater setup because I use heavier jigs (wanna make sure everything floats). Then finish it off with a couple of zip ties on both ends. I use an extra one in the middle if I'm using longer noodles. Voila! Cast all day with your low profile bass gears without any problems. Here's a few pics. Hope it helps.

awesome ill try that maybe also leash a float on the bottom for extra security. well at least for my med heavy setup. thanx bro. now deciding if I should go out mon/tues for the .8 swell in sc.

Glad you guys are both ok!! Not to jack thread but does under armour cold gear dry quick if you fall in?

no. lol. but if worn inside a dry suit it helps wick away sweat. im gonna run the ua heat gear well eastbays version of it. then polartec fleece on top then dry suit. that should keep me warm for longer than 3 minutes in the drink.

Glad you guys are both ok!! Not to jack thread but does under armour cold gear dry quick if you fall in?

Have you had experience with Under Armour cold gear after a dunk?  I'm sure it is not a cure all, but a lot better that what else is out there in the market.

Just wondering when siting with both legs off to one side, how stable is that.  Meaning wouldn't your weight be too far back?  I've seen lots of members doing that.  Looks like a great way to relieve from one sitting position.

I was doing it herb made me feel more stable.

Just wondering when siting with both legs off to one side, how stable is that.  Meaning wouldn't your weight be too far back? 

Just make sure you aren't leaning too far forward if you are sitting side saddle.

My first kayak was a Wilderness Tarpon.  It was very stable and I sat side saddle all the time either to relieve the soreness from sitting in one position, or to access things in my tank well.  But at the last of the Elk Derbies I had just bought a Prowler 15 and was using it for the first time.  I had just paddled out to the big rock and met up with Alex (Alien).  It was very calm except for some gentle swells.  I turned side saddle to get my tackle out of the Plano box in the tank well.  Sitting side saddle, I was handling some gear when I slipped right into the water.  I don't think I was even leaning forward at all, just sitting vertical to the midline axis of the kayak.  It was the first and only time I have dunked in the ocean unintentionally.  I shot right up and jumped right back in the seat, probably within 15-20 seconds of going in.  I did lose one nice Lamiglass Inshore/Tekota rig because when I unlashed it and put it in the rod holder, I had not yet leashed it--which I would have done after adding the terminal tackle.

I tried to figure out why I dunked doing what I had done dozens of times in my Tarpon.  Alex, who was laughing so hard when I came up, said he was watching the whole thing and didn't think I was really leaning forward much, if any at all.  He thought a swell had rolled under me and as it cleared my port side, it tipped the kayak just enough to the starboard side that I ended up "leaning" toward my feet, even though I was still centered in relationship to the kayak.  That's why I didn't experience it as falling off the kayak; felt more like the way you intentionally slip off the edge of the pool and into the water without making a splash.

So the point is that every combination of kayaker/kayak will determine different stability characteristics. For me a Prowler was way different than a Tarpon.  From then on, I did have to make sure I was deliberately leaning a bit backward whenever I sat side saddle to compensate for the higher risk of rolling over the side.

OMG! A post from Marmite! Where have yo been hiding bro??
I'm surprised it didn't work the other way around, getting dunked with the tarpon instead of the prowler.
I've had both of those kayaks so I can totally relate to what you are saying.
I think the most important part was how fast you got back on your kayak.
Practice makes perfect and when it does happen, and it will, getting back on is instinctive.

I will give it a try at the .  it should relieve the cramping problem.