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Topic: Asking the Experts!  (Read 3612 times)

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polepole

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I'd throw a Calstar Grafighter 700L or 700ML in the mix too for the Saltiga. Mono for albacore/braid for WSB. The reel might be a tad heavy for these rods...I don't know for sure.

The reel is not heavy if you're running mono on it.  The specs say it holds 300 yards of 20#.  I usually target 300 yards of line for fishing albacore, as a long soak or a long slide can eat up the line quickly, especially when you get picked up.  I think the specs also said 240 yards of 25#, which is minimally acceptable IMO.  The 700L is a great 20# rod, and is the one I reach for when live baiting albies.  The 700ML would be a good 25# rod.

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That's fine.

BTW, I don't consider the Nomad rod for 50+  pound fish, especially if using the lighter tip.  I'll have to compare that rod to the 700's to know for sure (and I have them all), but if you think it is too heavy, I wouldn't consider the ML and possibly the L.  Maybe consider the XL.

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I'd throw a Calstar Grafighter 700L or 700ML in the mix too for the Saltiga. Mono for albacore/braid for WSB. The reel might be a tad heavy for these rods...I don't know for sure.

The reel is not heavy if you're running mono on it.  The specs say it holds 300 yards of 20#.  I usually target 300 yards of line for fishing albacore, as a long soak or a long slide can eat up the line quickly, especially when you get picked up.  I think the specs also said 240 yards of 25#, which is minimally acceptable IMO.  The 700L is a great 20# rod, and is the one I reach for when live baiting albies.  The 700ML would be a good 25# rod.

-Allen
Currently have 65# powerpro on it.

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That's fine.

BTW, I don't consider the Nomad rod for 50+  pound fish, especially if using the lighter tip.  I'll have to compare that rod to the 700's to know for sure (and I have them all), but if you think it is too heavy, I wouldn't consider the ML and possibly the L.  Maybe consider the XL.

-Allen
I think there a couple of versions of the nomad rod. I believe there's a inshore version and boat version. I have the boat version. It's pretty stout.

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polepole

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I'd throw a Calstar Grafighter 700L or 700ML in the mix too for the Saltiga. Mono for albacore/braid for WSB. The reel might be a tad heavy for these rods...I don't know for sure.

The reel is not heavy if you're running mono on it.  The specs say it holds 300 yards of 20#.  I usually target 300 yards of line for fishing albacore, as a long soak or a long slide can eat up the line quickly, especially when you get picked up.  I think the specs also said 240 yards of 25#, which is minimally acceptable IMO.  The 700L is a great 20# rod, and is the one I reach for when live baiting albies.  The 700ML would be a good 25# rod.

-Allen
Currently have 65# powerpro on it.

Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2

That's fine.

BTW, I don't consider the Nomad rod for 50+  pound fish, especially if using the lighter tip.  I'll have to compare that rod to the 700's to know for sure (and I have them all), but if you think it is too heavy, I wouldn't consider the ML and possibly the L.  Maybe consider the XL.

-Allen
I think there a couple of versions of the nomad rod. I believe there's a inshore version and boat version. I have the boat version. It's pretty stout.

Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2

I know.  I have the sturdiest boat version, the 663M-MH.  The M tip is rated 15-30 and the MH tip is rated 20-60.  I consider the M tip a 20# rod.  And IMO, the MH tip a 30-40# rod.  For reference, 700L is rated 15-30# and I consider it a 20# rod.  Just putting things in perspective.

-Allen


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BTW, just so you know where I'm coming from.  I do not consider a 20# tuna rod in the same class as a 20# rockfish rod.  They serve entirely different purposes.  A 20# tuna rod need to be able to handle full drag for extended periods of time.  Backbone helps.  A 20# rockfish rod needs to be able to handle 8 ounces of weight as well as high pressure when trying to free a snag.

For instance, I wouldn't hesitate to use a Trevala 66M for a 20# rockfish rod, but I wouldn't use it as a 20# tuna rod (ok maybe I would in a pinch or just for the fun of it).

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BTW, just so you know where I'm coming from.  I do not consider a 20# tuna rod in the same class as a 20# rockfish rod.  They serve entirely different purposes.  A 20# tuna rod need to be able to handle full drag for extended periods of time.  Backbone helps.  A 20# rockfish rod needs to be able to handle 8 ounces of weight as well as high pressure when trying to free a snag.

For instance, I wouldn't hesitate to use a Trevala 66M for a 20# rockfish rod, but I wouldn't use it as a 20# tuna rod (ok maybe I would in a pinch or just for the fun of it).

-Allen
I see your point.
Don't really see a whole lot of tuna action, expecting to go mainly after the usuals, the grey ghost, rockfish, hali's, salmon and the occasional shark. So go with calstars and trevalas?

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polepole

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BTW, just so you know where I'm coming from.  I do not consider a 20# tuna rod in the same class as a 20# rockfish rod.  They serve entirely different purposes.  A 20# tuna rod need to be able to handle full drag for extended periods of time.  Backbone helps.  A 20# rockfish rod needs to be able to handle 8 ounces of weight as well as high pressure when trying to free a snag.

For instance, I wouldn't hesitate to use a Trevala 66M for a 20# rockfish rod, but I wouldn't use it as a 20# tuna rod (ok maybe I would in a pinch or just for the fun of it).

-Allen
I see your point.
Don't really see a whole lot of tuna action, expecting to go mainly after the usuals, the grey ghost, rockfish, hali's, salmon and the occasional shark. So go with calstars and trevalas?

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Sounds like you need AT LEAST 3 different rods!!!   :smt002

I'd put WSB in the "use a tuna rod" category.

And salmon in a "use a longer more moderate action rod" category.

Then a rockfish rod!

-Allen


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Other rod possibilities...

Are you thinking of using the Diawa Lexa as your rockfish/ling swimbait/jigging set-up? You might look at the St. Croix Mojo Inshore. Biscayne Eglass 30-50#. Calstar GG series or the inshore series might have something. I'm sure there are others out there (some probably with a trigger handle on the stick).

Here's a link to suggested rod/reel gear for NorCal ocean species. Looks like some good gear matching info. Hopefully, it will be OK to link this. If not, Mods please remove.

http://www.tigerfishsportfishing.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5&Itemid=7

       
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