Ball Park or Oscar Meyer?

idk what my VN ancestors were complaining about, should have kept the frenchies around just for the tasty vittles

Ah the french, bring us good food, wide doors and barely used guns 

(my father in law would never eat a hotdog but loves to trash talk the french)

I like the all beef hotdogs, whichever is on sale   

And I ONLY like Mayonnaise    Ketsup and Mustard are gross 

And I ONLY like Mayonnaise    Ketsup and Mustard are gross 

Ey Sara....what planet are you from?    Lemme guess......Canada? 

I'm normally a Hebrew National guy, but I view franks like beer...the best type is the one I am currently consuming, and they get extra flavor points if they are free .

& I'm a condiment hound... gimme mustard & ketchup, relish, BBQ sauce, chili, jalapenos, cheese to melt on top...never met a condiment I didn't like.

I think the best dogs I have eaten came from either Corralitos meat market or Shoppers corner.

Just wanted to add this.....The TRUE definition of a "man dog"

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OK...since I'am the CREATOR of the Man-Dog....I will provide the "official" definition.....

The Man-Dog:

1) Has to be longer than the hot dog bun itself (no need to go crazy on the lenght of the dog itself...after all, not all dogs are gifted )
2) Has to be circum-sliced (by Mooch himself or anyone approved by the Mooch)
3) Ketchup IS the KEY ingredient regardless of what anybody says! (mustard and relish is simply an add on)
4) When the Man-Dog is topped with the extra "bling bling" (Fish Hunter's chili beans with some shredded cheese) then the Man-Dog has now been upgraded to "Man-Dog with extra Bling"


I'll be coming up with a book (DVD also available) on the proper techniques of prepping the Man-Dog...and I will also be doing a book-signing at the local mall the weekend after the release of the said book. If you want a free copy with my autograph, send me a PM.....and I'll see what I can do.


By the way, I'd like to add on to rule # 3 (because I'm the creator,thus, I CAN)

*Ketchup should not only be "poured" but "smeared" (with a proper knife) "into" the ridges of the man-dog.

Nice to see you have a tape measure and an 11" frozen wiener just laying around! Can't wait for the "this happened to me" post from you.

Ditto the Hebrew Nationals here.  Like Sean, I'll eat any hotdog, but if given the choice, I'll go with the kosher choice any time.  I figure any additional quality standards over and above FDA specs is a good thing.

Ditto the Hebrew Nationals here.  Like Sean, I'll eat any hotdog, but if given the choice, I'll go with the kosher choice any time.  I figure any additional quality standards over and above FDA specs is a good thing.

i voted OscarMeyer......i dont want a hotdog bathing in extra liquid sodium nitrates, there's enough inside already, and then to grow in size!?= no thanks, but i will eat any hotdog that is given to me.

#1~ commonly available in all stores = OscarM
#2~ Caspers if purchasing prepared and loaded
#3~ BBQ'd , Mooch circumsized  and fully loaded with *bling if preparing for self.
#4~ and yes, they do have to answer to a HIGHER authority......HebrewNational for quality and peace of mind
 

I like the all beef hotdogs, whichever is on sale   

And I ONLY like Mayonnaise    Ketsup and Mustard are gross 

Sorry Sarah,
Had I known I would have made sure to have some Mayo at my events 
I will be sure to have it at Caples (you are going to show, arn't you)

See Ya Soon,
Eric / Yakhopper

Oh, ball park without question.  I just fished off 2 with the safeway air-buns right before I read this post. 

thanks for the thread, shows we pay attention to more than just fishing......

Allen

Martin:
Too bad it's not your trial...  Sounds more interesting than whether Apple infringed on HTC's patents, or vice versa.  Does your firm have a practice group for litigating who has the best lingerie?  If so, I'm going back to firm life!   
thx for sharing.

On a serious note, I haven't eaten either in years.  I prefer Miller's.

+1 for miller's

What's a "brand operative?"  Is that like a marketing person who was previously special forces?

Consumers Understand '100% Beef' Claim: Kraft Witness

By Megan Stride

Law360, Chicago (August 22, 2011) -- An ex-Oscar Mayer brand operative testified at Sara Lee Corp. and Kraft Foods Inc.'s false marketing trial Monday that he thought consumers understood the truth behind Kraft's allegedly misleading advertising claim that Oscar Meyer franks are "100 percent beef."

The Kraft defense witness fielded questions in Illinois federal court from both sides tied to Ball Park hot dog maker Sara Lee's claim that the "100 percent beef" phrase is suspect because Oscar Meyer dogs also contain water, preservatives and seasonings, a key allegation in the three-year frankfurter feud that could help define legal limits on advertising claims.

On the bench trial's sixth day, Michael Edward Martinez of K&L Gates LLP, who represents Kraft, called to the stand Gary Berger Jr., a former senior associate brand manager at Oscar Meyer who worked on developing the company's 100 percent beef claim.

When Martinez asked Berger what that claim meant to him, the witness said the phrase simply meant that the product's "source of meat was beef," and not beef combined with another type of meat.

Around the time the ad was developed, Kraft was fighting against consumer concerns that hot dogs contained a kind of undesirable “mystery meat” blend, Berger said, and that the 100 percent phrase was aimed at quelling those fears.

Martinez asked whether there had been any discussions at Kraft about whether to use the phrase "made with 100 percent beef" instead — a phrase favored by ConAgra Foods Inc.'s Hebrew National brand, a competitor of both companies — and Berger said that while that phrase had been talked about, he felt that, either way, consumers understood that hot dogs weren't just “sticks of raw beef.”

On cross-examination, Berger told Douglas J. Behr of Keller & Heckman LLP, who represents Sara Lee, that Kraft, to his knowledge, had never run any focus groups designed specifically for claim language to determine how consumers interpreted the “100 percent beef” phrase.

When Behr asked Berger whether he was testifying that the “made with” phrase carried the same meaning as the “100 percent beef” claim, the witness said that his team at Kraft believed consumers saw no difference between them.

“Hot dogs are certainly not unknown to consumers,” Berger said before again confirming that Kraft did not run focus groups to test consumers' beef claim perception.

The plaintiff's attorney also asked Berger to confirm the results of a Kraft survey that showed potential hot dog purchasers found the “made with” phrase much less persuasive than the “100 percent beef” phrase Kraft actually went with.

In the weiner war it launched back in 2009, Sara Lee also accused Kraft of unfair competition, alleging that it made false statements in ads that its Oscar Meyer weiners beat out Ball Park brand dogs in a national consumer taste test.

Kraft, meanwhile, is pursuing its own counterclaims that Sara Lee has unfairly displayed a professional best taste award and called its Ball Park franks “America's best.”

Sara Lee is represented by attorneys from Keller & Heckman LLP and Schuyler Roche & Crisham PC.

Kraft is represented by attorneys from K&L Gates LLP.

The case is Sara Lee Corp. v. Kraft Foods Inc. et al., case number 1:09-cv-03039, in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois.

--Editing by Elizabeth Bowen.

Only people I trust to make a good dog is...


yup........this is a great tasting dog!
The Jews!