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Topic: 8/14 another NCKA'er get's hit by a white shark at Bean Hollow.....  (Read 86847 times)

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MANBEARPIG

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either you guys are very good at writting and hitting raw nerves or i'm still suffering hard from PTSD. I and theeMightyJasonLee went back to the Bean saturday. I did not go back to fish it, i returned to praise it, give it thanks, and make up a sacraficial ceremony of things that make me whole.

theMotherOceansH2o, Fruit&Herbs from her womb that i consume daily, a wild flower from the Bean, 2 NCKA gifts of power (a handcrafted Hook from Picsean & a handmade plaque from Guitarzan). My paddle of life and the shoe that got torn off my foot by whitey.
WHATitMEANS?iDOnotKNOW!  but i had to do something i've never done before. = cry like a baby on the shoreline along the SMC.  

Right on Adam, way to respect the bean, and the powers that be....cant take anything for granted out here...I think your doin everything right. take your time. feel it out.
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Went by the Bean yesterday to pay my respects. . .no I didn't enter the water there, just looked.

Is it just me. .  .or did Adams 'yak , with it's striping, look like a giant Tiger Stripe lure?
Got to ask yourself whether it's a good idea to stand out while on the Big Blue. I'm thinking not.


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Is it just me. .  .or did Adams 'yak , with it's striping, look like a giant Tiger Stripe lure?
Got to ask yourself whether it's a good idea to stand out while on the Big Blue. I'm thinking not.

Stripes, no stripes...FF, no FF...red yak, yellow yak... these things don't matter. I think we as NCKA have proved that.
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Oh. So everyone out there that day had stripes painted on their 'yaks? Is that what you're saying PISCEAN? I don't get  your message.
Seems he is the ONLY ONE that got hit. Stripes??? Perhaps.


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  Here's the website that  explains  the stripe theory.

http://www.sharkcamo.com.au/


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I think he is just saying that the last member to get hit, at Bean had no stripes... So it doesn't really matter what the paint scheme is, or the color or FF or no FF, what matters is that he ok.

On little plastic boats, we are foreign objects out there no matter what.


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Oh. So everyone out there that day had stripes painted on their 'yaks? Is that what you're saying PISCEAN? I don't get  your message.
Seems he is the ONLY ONE that got hit. Stripes??? Perhaps.

 My point is that is not about any of the details I listed. The point is that we can deduce from this attack one similarity between it & the other interactions, including Strosaker's incident off of Gaviota earlier this season. To say it was stripes or yak color is just getting away from the pattern.

Dans964----------paddling alone away from the pack, hit as he stopped, red yak, FF maybe fish aboard
Guitarzan---------paddling out alone, scoped as he entered open water, FF, green yak, no fish
me---------------paddling alone away from the pack, scoped as I stopped, red yak, no FF, no fish
Strosaker---------paddling alone, hit as he stopped, red yak, no FF, no fish
Fishunter---------paddling alone, away from the pack, hit as he stopped, yellow yak, FF, no fish



« Last Edit: August 26, 2010, 09:34:45 AM by PISCEAN »
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  Not according to mythbusters.



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Cool study, but we generally don't have loaded bait bags hanging from the underside of our yaks.. Not enough info/scenarios to make an accurate assumption there. I think Piscean's assumption is more accurate from what ive read and seen. Just my opinion. Reality says this could happen to anyone.


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I think that Paddling alone, away from the pack, might be the best lesson here.  I think the White Sharks, like most predators, go after the straggler, the weak, young, or sick...that is if he knows what he's going after...definately a lot of questions to ask, but how to answer????
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Quote from: PORKY
Not enough info/scenarios to make an accurate assumption there.

ding ding ding, we have a winner. :beer2

We should be careful not to jump to conclusions based on one incident. After all, scientists have been studying these animals for years & still have lots of unanswered questions about their behavior.

Piscean's point offers the most evidence of a pattern, although it's a tiny sample, but I believe it also corresponds with actual scientific observations about these animals - that they tend attack isolated prey, as MBP noted. (no, I'm not gonna cite refs - look it up!   :smt002 ).
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Oh. So everyone out there that day had stripes painted on their 'yaks? Is that what you're saying PISCEAN? I don't get  your message.
Seems he is the ONLY ONE that got hit. Stripes??? Perhaps.

 My point is that is not about any of the details I listed. The point is that we can deduce from this attack one similarity between it & the other interactions, including Strosaker's incident off of Gaviota earlier this season. To say it was stripes or yak color is just getting away from the pattern.

Dans964----------paddling alone away from the pack, hit as he stopped, red yak, FF maybe fish aboard
Guitarzan---------paddling out alone, scoped as he entered open water, FF, green yak, no fish
me---------------paddling alone away from the pack, scoped as I stopped, red yak, no FF, no fish
Strosaker---------paddling alone, hit as he stopped, red yak, no FF, no fish
Fishunter---------paddling alone, away from the pack, hit as he stopped, yellow yak, FF, no fish



Picean has got it right.

The point is there is no pattern.  I've heard and been taught through out my many years of surfing, diving and fishing that the only thing predictable about sharks is that they are unpredictable.


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Amen Jim, you said it all.


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I think Sean, Jim, And MBP Have got it. There's not any one thing that we could do as a magical Shark repelent. I think its an accumulation of Things that we have to do to stay out of the jaws of a GWS. Paddling in  packs or Pushing around with a small floatilla, I Think would be the best thing to do off top(minus shark shield/Bangstick). is to stick together. I think fishing in groups of at least three is appropriate. We could all mark depths and share that info verbally. Letting the other guys know what type of structure they are getting on top of. This is just and Idea. I don't know that we will never Face another GWS in NCKA. But We can all learn to Play It Safe from this Grizzly encounter.

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My goodness Adam....
 I just read this from the beginning [ out of the country].
Of the dozens of thoughts that come to mind, my overriding concern is simply....I'm sincerely so glad you are OK.
Your life, health and family ....I mean, really...what else comes close?

According to Sommeran, "safety while in the ocean is a matter of familiarity and possessing some situational awareness."

Well, the best of us have just survived this kind of thing; the nightmare we all harbor in the back of our mind as we paddle out.
Adam has shown that ones odds of survival increase with a rational will to fight, scramble and survive. Adam gives a hope and an example that inspires me.
 I have no doubt that if the shark actually got a hold of him, it may well have lost an eye or got a gill branch pulled out..

Wow, I have another hero now from the NCKA besides Mooch.
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