I want to stay warm and dry

yeah man, i drink a coffee, gatorade and a med/to large bottle of water every single trip, i have to pee or it makes for a long trip.. Id say i go at least a few times....

I drink a lot of liquids before & on the water so I end up peeing a lot, too. There's no way I could or would want to hold it all day. Lately, I've just been wearing the pants of an old 2-piece full suit - even though the pants are chest high, I can manage to pull them down enough (about mid-belly is enough!) to take care of business.

I've gotten comfortable side-saddling & pissing over the side while bracing myself with one arm behind me on the opposite side of the yak for stability & balance.  With a relief zipper, it's easy enough just to scoot forward with legs over sides & peeing right into a scupper hole. A couple splashes of water & all clear.

Getting back to the original topic, the consensus seems to be wetsuits or high-quality dry suit for the ocean. Wetsuit has to be thick enough to stay warm, not only while fishing, but for full immersion as well (see Dale's post above). For upper body on the ocean, I've been wearing a rash guard + synthetic, h2o-wicking long-sleeve shirt and paddle jacket. If it's colder, I also put on a wool sweater. That's not ideal since it would get heavy if soaked but wool can still keep you warm when wet. I need another good layer like a HydroSkin shirt to replace the wool.

Waders are good for lakes & such - be sure to wear a belt. Some of us wear waders on the bay, also, but I think it depends how comfortable you are dealing with bay water & conditions - that water is cold, too.

And to think everyone thinks I dump in the surf because I suck at reading waves...  I'm really just rinsing off.

Now I know two people to stay away from. LOL   When I first
started kayak fishing, I was using the farmer john 3mm. I switched to the tempest
kokatat because I was always getting nauseous wearing the wet suit. I am not
really sure though if it is from the smell of the neoprene or being so restricted whenever I have them on. I know that I am taking a chance being out on the ocean with just the dry pants and tops but beats hurling all the time.

Jedmo

Now I know two people to stay away from. LOL   When I first
started kayak fishing, I was using the farmer john 3mm. I switched to the tempest
kokatat because I was always getting nauseous wearing the wet suit. I am not
really sure though if it is from the smell of the neoprene or being so restricted whenever I have them on. I know that I am taking a chance being out on the ocean with just the dry pants and tops but beats hurling all the time.

Jedmo

You may be at more of a risk leaning over to puke. I just hate the wet/damp ass I get in a wetsuit.

The the pressure on th throat with a good fitting wet suit can be bothersome for me. Doesn't make me sick but it can be distracting and uncomfortable. Excellent point though, thought I was the only one trippin on that.

With all the wetting and puking talk going around glad to hear no one has admitted to taking a dump in their suit yet.

Oh man that would be a a disaster area.

I knew bluekayak would chime in on that one!

Maybe you just need to extend that relief zipper all the way around. Remember these jeans...? 

When I began a few years ago, I took an old windsurfing ( 4/3?)full wetsuit and cut the arms/ shoulders off as well as the stuff around the neck, making a pretty warm farmer john.  After a couple of tries taking a nature break by trying to pull it down to do my business, and, uh, the alternative, I made a relief port using a couple scraps of neoprene (thinner than 3 mm, maybe 2 mm), some velcro and my heavy duty sewing needles and thread (check West Marine - sail repair, rope whipping stuff).
  Whether this is easier or harder than putting a zipper in, I'll let you decide, maybe you'll try putting a zipper in, screw it up, then recover with this method.   I could send you a pic if you wish, but I just cut a slit in the crotch (a little higher than if you were standing! Sit in your yak in your suit and chalk a line in the sensitive area),sewed one flap of @ 2" wide x 3" tall to the right side so that it covered the slit with an inch to either side and an inch beyond the top and bottom of the slit.  That piece had one side of the velcro (fuzzy part) sewn to it so it faced out (and along the rightside of the flap, near where it is sewn to the suit.  Then I sewed another similar sized flap to the left side of the slit, with the velcro(hooks side) sewn on the inside and to the right so that it matched up with the right flap velcro. I think I might have also sewn velcro to the top and bottom of the flaps too.   Basically, overlapping barn doors.  It worked well and didn't let water in unless I was submerged for a while. 
 
If I could stay warm and dry all day, I'd really enjoy it a lot more. If I could also stand occasionally, I'd never come in.   Gradually, with detours, I've gotten to this:
  Feet: NRS 5 mm Workboots, 3 mm O'Neill neoprene socks, hiking liner socks inside.  This is the warmest my feet have been. When my boots wear out, I'm going to try NRS' knee high boots and heavy wool socks like someone on the board uses and swears by.
  Bottom: Fleece sweat pants, NRS farmer john (3 mm?), Kokotat dry, breathable pants
  Top:Thin fleece Mysterioso rash guard under F john, if cold, thicker fleece sweatshirt on top, and always a NRS breathable splash jacket, unless it's very calm and hot on land.  I've been looking at O'Neill's 1mm neoprene shirt, a sit-inside yakker who paddles all year recommended them, but I'm a little worried about it being wet from the inside out.
   Head: Mostly a ball cap or wide-brim hat, but if it's winter, a "squid lid", which is an about 2-3mm neoprene head-neck hood- just putting it on and pulling the top down so it just covers the neck is often enough to keep me warm.

  I have a front zipper farmer john, that works. Also I have cut a fly in a thicker farmer john. This and carry a small plastic jar, no problems except for  some spillage.

    I've been seasick , upchuckwise, a couple times. Once was a bad cross swell. I think that both times involved  dirty neoprene tho. If plankton gets stuck in the fibers ,essentially you end up with so much rotten meat next your skin so that you've got a food poisoning patch, like a nicotine patch kind of a thing. Washing with laundry detergent solves the problem. Every four or five outings depending on conditions.
     Wearing a wet suit for more than four hours has a depressing sort of effect what with the skin not being able to breath and all. Got me thinking about  James Bond Goldfinger the other day.

  I have a front zipper farmer john, that works. Also I have cut a fly in a thicker farmer john. This and carry a small plastic jar, no problems except for  some spillage.

    I've been seasick , upchuckwise, a couple times. Once was a bad cross swell. I think that both times involved  dirty neoprene tho. If plankton gets stuck in the fibers ,essentially you end up with so much rotten meat next your skin so that you've got a food poisoning patch, like a nicotine patch kind of a thing. Washing with laundry detergent solves the problem. Every four or five outings depending on conditions.
     Wearing a wet suit for more than four hours has a depressing sort of effect what with the skin not being able to breath and all. Got me thinking about  James Bond Goldfinger the other day.


Interesting, is this palnkton thing true, good point..

    When the plankton thing happened I was wearing  nrs neoprene booties that would  be totally exposed to seawater , all I know is that I had that very same feeling you get when eat something bad and after I washed the things, no  more problem. Maybe I'm sensitive to the stuff or something. This  after I didn't wash the things for half the summer,my bad, I had been rinsing with fresh water tho. I thought how much of the  plankton isn't plants but odd shaped diatoms that were protoplasm and could get caught in the fibers and it seemed like a reasonable  possibility.
    Otherwise, I've been through some pretty bad swell conditions with no problems.

man, i washed my suit last night for the first time in 2 months, smells squeaky clean, i did notice last week it smelled like there may have been a dead body in there at some point..

also, as for the peeing problem..... with no relief zipper... being that i like the safety of the full wet suit and its warm in the fog, i decided to go with the NRS full suit with the zipper in the FRONT, YES!!

hope it fits??

Porky, great lookin' suit. Full zipper...nice!
Let us know how it works out.