Why aren't there more "Fishing Reports" Posted

I think many of you are overestimating the impact that kayak angling is having on most fisheries.  The fact is, people that seriously kayak fish would be fishing via other means if kayaks had never been invented and there are always other ways to obtain information on conditions and bites other than NCKA. 

Consider the number of reasonable kayak ocean launches we have in the SF Bay Area and Monterrey. Now consider that we have depth and range restrictions that keep us ALL (power or paddle) within a mile or two of shore.  Now consider that there is only a couple spots that produce quality fish in decent numbers.  How much pressure do you think these spots can handle while still producing? 

I think impact concerns are legitimate. 

I cant believe all the selfish,paranoid,cry-baby bullsh$t that iam reading. if youre catching fish, dont be greedy, life is short, post-up and help a brother out.

I cant believe all the selfish,paranoid,cry-baby bullsh$t that iam reading. if youre catching fish, dont be greedy, life is short, post-up and help a brother out.

Life is short...and when you invest the time to figure something out only to have a hoard of lurkers be on your spot the next time you return after posting you'll understand why we have become paranoid cry babies.

I will usually post up results of a successful outing, including information on the tactics and hardware used.  I believe that giving up exact locations will probably only lead to a spot getting blown out.  Sure, people could get on the fish easier with all the info, but did they become a better fisherman?  It is much more rewarding to be able to find the fish by instinct and the ability to read the water that comes with experience and time fishing for a given species.

I haven't been posting because I haven't been fishing. I took an ass pounding by my boss and got sent to graveyard weekends, and with all the damn pot heads in the area, I've been real busy seizing all their money and pot.

I'll be back on days come January, so it's game on come steelhead season.

CHEERS!

Oh, and one more thing, I'm learning the guitar, thanks to my inspiration dude Ben (guitarzan)!

i personally would love to show up and find a bunch of lurkers at one of my reccomended spots. i might even make a few new friends, share my wine, break some bread. i call that fun.

personally would love to show up and find a bunch of lurkers at one of my reccomended spots. i might even make a few new friends, share my wine, break some bread. i call that fun.

Thats the way it used to be.  Some spots can't support a bunch of dudes, who then tell a bunch of dudes, none of who ever return the favor about their great spot.

haha!  we're all guilty of that not sharing certain spots after getting "beta" on a spot....

good example: the Richmond bridge hallie bite earlier this year...

i personally would love to show up and find a bunch of lurkers at one of my reccomended spots. i might even make a few new friends, share my wine, break some bread. i call that fun.

Post away my friend. One thing for sure now is that you won't get that spot from me.

I always thought that "Being in the right place at the right time" is what fishing is all about. Thus, that is why a lot of people that have gone to the "HOT" spots and have been skunked. I still like to get together with a group of people and have a great time and all. That is what it's all about. Like I say, "Being on a kayak is the fun part, catching a fish is a bonus" I'm just as guilty of not posting and will do better in the future.

Can we barter for the evidence locker key??!! Those bar chords can be kind of tricky!
On topic of reports... I usually dont post a skunk when I go solo, but will start. However, come sturg season, if I nail a spot, its staying in the PM arena, last year if somone got one and posted, there were many lurkers at the spot the next day, some unfriendly, some not and they knew us. At Black Point there were 5 different PBers that knew who I was from the posts and they said they only look at the site for the fishing reports, repeat, they said they look at the site ONLY FOR THE FISHING REPORTS. Flattering? No. The ocean is big, but what about Monte's and BP, too small for a free for all IMHO.

I haven't been posting because I haven't been fishing. I took an ass pounding by my boss and got sent to graveyard weekends, and with all the damn pot heads in the area, I've been real busy seizing all their money and pot.

I'll be back on days come January, so it's game on come steelhead season.

CHEERS!

I too haven't been posting reports because I just haven't been out.  Due to various reasons I think I've only hit the ocean twice this season, and freshwater once...which explains my (assumed) stellar last-place ranking in AOTY.   

I did, however, post a report each time I went out, good or bad.  Now that I think of it, it was mostly bad this year, dammit.    Like agarcia, who is one of my heroes when it comes to entertaining posts, I try to make my reports a mixture of information and entertainment, and when my camera is working, photos.  (I need to order that Optio so I can be more like Abking too) 

Given the number of closures and fishing restrictions, I am however considering the way in which I give my reports.  In the past I've been forthcoming in all aspects; location, methods of catch, et cetera.  I am starting to see the reason behind the more mysterious reports posted...the "Killer day at the Secret Spot" and "Massacre at LingCity" type of reports offer everything but the locale, which I now feel is better shared with friends via a more personal method of communication. 

I'd have no problem sharing details with any of the NCKA crew via cell phone, email or PM.  However, when someone named "Fishkilla" with only 1 forum post asks me where I just caught that 40" butt (I wish!) I'm more likely to plead the 5th.  I'm having a hard enough time catching fish already, and I don't see the need to broadcast information that will bring in the power boaters. 

All that said, I need to get out on the water, dang it.  last weekend would have been good, but I was up near Yosemite playing paintball all weekend.  I did shoot at least two dozen people though...there's a report for ya! 

To all of you who don't want to post details: I get it, I truly do, especially in areas where the pressure can be greater like the south bay spots, and smaller bodies of water.  I personnally read the reports to see pictures and get motivated to fish.  I have very rarely used the reports as a guide as to where to fish and when, as I fish where I think the fishing will be good based on what I know about the fisheries and what I have learned on my own and by talking and fishing with others over time.  When I do go and especially when I do well, I feel compelled, for the good of the community, to share some info for those that maybe don't have the know how to figure everything out on their own. If we don't do that, what is the purpose of NCKA and the web page, other than to brag?

Perhaps a way to continue to share with the needy and not piss off all the "locals only, inner circle" guys would be to give less specifics on the exact location and more on why a certain type of fish in certain types of areas are likely targets for success based on the current time of year, conditions, etc.......

Thanks for all the perspective, it makes me think and thinking is always good.....

Peace

There are those who have taken their reports underground (pms and phone calls) when fishing their waters that they hold sacred. It because they have learned from the mistake of sharing too much in a public forum and even with NCKA members.
A good example is the member who posts reports from there local waters and another member pms and asks for a "guided" trip. Of course there is a good time had by all and real friendships are made. Then the member who received the tour returns to the shared hunting grounds with another NCKA member who is ignorant of any anglers etiquette. This dude then returns to the site and posts open hookups with the intent of returning to this very spot with a horde and even includes a google earth map in the places to launch section. Fishing is so much more than being at the right place at the right time. Fish hold in specific areas for specific reasons and you have to sometimes put in years of scouting to find that mega spot.
Another example is the NCKA member who asks for help at your local waters and you help them out by sharing a few spots. The member states that he and his wife enjoy the taste of the local fish and that they would be harvesting only a few small males since it is during pre-spawn. They show up at the shared spot with 5 kayakers each taking a limit that includes some very large females. To make things worse they take their photos at the launch site for all to witness "the kayakers" harvesting pre spawn hens. They drive away while the local kayaker takes the heat from the fishing network that he worked so hard to be accepted into. These are just a few examples of the violations of trust that can occur as the site grows and these are not including the lurkers.
 Those who think that protecting your hunting grounds is BS are probably those who have never put the long days, weeks, and months of study in a life that is so short.
There are still alot of great reports that go up here everyday but it is clear that many who used to freely share with the NCKA at large are now a little wiser and hold their local water a little more sacred. When you report with specifics and your local waters get violated there really is only one person you can blame.
report responsibly