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Topic: Halibut limit decrease  (Read 3941 times)

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essrigr

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I do not really think it is a de population issue, it is more a issue on capitalism on steroids. Really many of these problems can be traced to globalization that started in the early 80's. The idea was to export job to foreign countries, Americans would get cheaper good and foreign countries would increase their wealth and become consumers of American goods, sold as a win/win to the American people. In many ways this worked, look at China. In the 1980 their country was poor, had no manufacturing and little technology. American and European companies built factories, gave technology and for a while we got cheap goods and a cost of lost jobs. Of course the wet dream global companies had was a whole new market of a billion people are now making money and will buy their goods, which happened for a short period. GM world headquarters are in Shanghai not the U.S. and for a while they sold many more cars to Chinese than they did in America. That did not last long, China imported their domestic car production and now they sell their cars. Their population is now wealthy as trickle down economics works and now they buy many goods, more of Chinese goods than American, except for real-estate, (they are a major buyer of our homes and business and debt. They have decimated their fishing population and now their fleet is going around the world and doing this to every where they can, so we have created a monster who is now as money hungry and we were. I remember in the 1970's reading an article that stated the U.S. represented 10% of the worlds population but used over 25% of the resources. So with globalization we have now created this new China that represents maybe 30% of the Earth's population and uses over 50% of the resources. So what capitalism does is creates more wealth which then uses more of the resources and ultimately uses them beyond the capability of regeneration and guess what, no more, another resource is extinct. These are complicated issues which require a major rethink in how we do business on a global scale, just my opinion, thanks for listening.


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In the end, all of these problems exist because we have too many humans, but that's another problem altogether.

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oysterer

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CA halibut doesn't freeze particularly well from a food standpoint and is not sold widely out of state or internationally for that matter.


essrigr

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Well, I am not sure of the freezing issue, I have frozen my halibut and have eaten a year later and the taste is delicious. Why it is possible that the halibut is not a fish that gets sold overseas, there is a lot of fish that does get shipped. so rather than look at just one species you must take a more holistic look at this problem. In addition I had mentioned the price, as more halibut is caught the price goes down and more can afford to buy, which then will stress the population as more people eat the fish. So what I am trying to say is this is a complicated problem that has many different causes and overall you must address all of them if you do not want to have a collapse of the species of one fish and of fish in general, it is happening all over the world right now as we discuss and try to understand why it is happening, so.


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I have already talked to two kayakers that are buying a commercial license to allow two rods and NO limits, I guess I sort of understand why but if enough people do this, it will just kill the halibut numbers. Again as I said in a last post this change is more about saving the commercial industry (and the people who will pay the extra cash for a commercial license) and the businesses that provide party boats to the people who will pay big bucks to catch halibut the easiest way possible, letting a boat taking them right over where the halibut are and helping them bring them aboard. It's all about the money that businesses make, not about the sport fisherman or the halibut numbers.

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