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Topic: Over limit halibut - youtubers strike again  (Read 13525 times)

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On top of all the incorrect statements and regulations broken, this guy incriminates all the people he fishes with. He states that he thought it was ok because the folks he hangs with are doing it. What does that say about the rest of his group? They think it's ok as well? You can't tell me other people in that group didn't know it was illegal.
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This is exactly how I feel about that “group” too. Should be called Fresh Blown Up Spots for Kooks.

There is really a problem with the fresh and salty group and their inability to understand and follow the regulations. I had a lengthy discussion with several one time at OP about it being illegal to fish multiple rods there for halibut. There are far too many examples like this seen online and even more in person when they bomb a launch/location with dozens taking anything and everything they catch. DFW would be well served to join some of their hook-ups - a couple of enforcement actions would go a long way to getting better compliance.

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Agreed! I was a member for a very short time several years ago. I posted about exactly this concern and asked what the senior leadership of the club was doing and about the reputation F and S was developing…that conversation didn’t go too well, but to be honest I haven’t shaken my disdain for the group. I’m sure there are many solid individuals who are members, but as a whole I think they are hurting the sport as well as putting a shitload of pressure on certain fisheries.
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Still waiting for Won to come share his thoughts.  What is he out fishing or something  :smt005
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This guy is a f***ing idiot.

"Once you get your limit, you're done for today. It's going to suck because you hit your limit in 30 minutes or an hour, but that's just the way it is."

Are you kidding me!? Limiting in an hour or less is everyone's dream day. F***ing entitled brat playing victim because he limited too fast?

"There is a gateway to stay longer if you do decide to continue fishing once you hit your limit. It's that you have to release one of your keepers in order to continue fishing."

What does this mean? Take one of your 22.5" halibut that you've bonked and bled and throw it back?

This loser is exactly the kind of fisherman we'd be better off without. He doesn't seem to have any regard for ethics. He just talks about loopholes in the law and how to jump through them. He could use some education on fish mortality, too. Catching and releasing with barbed trebles is NOT okay.

I only watched the first two minutes. Not interested in giving him any more air time.
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This guy is a f***ing idiot.

"Once you get your limit, you're done for today. It's going to suck because you hit your limit in 30 minutes or an hour, but that's just the way it is."

Are you kidding me!? Limiting in an hour or less is everyone's dream day. F***ing entitled brat playing victim because he limited too fast?

"There is a gateway to stay longer if you do decide to continue fishing once you hit your limit. It's that you have to release one of your keepers in order to continue fishing."

What does this mean? Take one of your 22.5" halibut that you've bonked and bled and throw it back?

This loser is exactly the kind of fisherman we'd be better off without. He doesn't seem to have any regard for ethics. He just talks about loopholes in the law and how to jump through them. He could use some education on fish mortality, too. Catching and releasing with barbed trebles is NOT okay.

I only watched the first two minutes. Not interested in giving him any more air time.

Also... "I can't find the regulation in the books, so if you can find it leave it in the comments."

Yet.... "Comments are disabled for this video"

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This is exactly how I feel about that “group” too. Should be called Fresh Blown Up Spots for Kooks.

I still have a chuckle when I think about how montanaska went on there and called them the fresh and salty "how do I motorize my hobie" group LOL...

too funny, I dont think they liked that and it kicked off even more motorized projects it seems.
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Still waiting for Won to come share his thoughts.  What is he out fishing or something  :smt005
Even he is lost for words on this😂😂
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This guy is a f***ing idiot.

"Once you get your limit, you're done for today. It's going to suck because you hit your limit in 30 minutes or an hour, but that's just the way it is."

Are you kidding me!? Limiting in an hour or less is everyone's dream day. F***ing entitled brat playing victim because he limited too fast?

"There is a gateway to stay longer if you do decide to continue fishing once you hit your limit. It's that you have to release one of your keepers in order to continue fishing."

What does this mean? Take one of your 22.5" halibut that you've bonked and bled and throw it back?

This loser is exactly the kind of fisherman we'd be better off without. He doesn't seem to have any regard for ethics. He just talks about loopholes in the law and how to jump through them. He could use some education on fish mortality, too. Catching and releasing with barbed trebles is NOT okay.

I only watched the first two minutes. Not interested in giving him any more air time.

 


I say we cut the guy some slack since he was just trying to help another angler with fish so he doesn’t have to stay out there too long and put his life at risk.  :smt005
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lol updated description is amazing.  What a complete clown.

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For those that are upset this is what I was reading online and mistakenly done what I’ve done! I didn’t take over the fish limit home, I just helped another angler with fish so he doesn’t have to stay out there too long and put his life at risk.

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Catch Shares

Catch Shares is a general term associated with fisheries management strategies that dedicate a share of fish to individual fishermen, cooperatives, or fishing communities.

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Table of Contents

What are catch shares?
How do they work?
Why use catch shares?
Which U.S. fisheries use catch shares?
What goes into designing a catch share program?
Where can I find more information?
What are catch shares?
Catch shares is a general term associated with several fisheries management strategies that dedicate a secure share of fish to individual fishermen, cooperatives, or fishing communities for their exclusive use.

Catch share programs are just one management option regional fishery management councils can choose to meet their management objectives. Catch shares are not required and are not appropriate for every fishery. NOAA Fisheries provides technical and administrative support to councils and stakeholders wishing to consider, design, and/or implement a catch share program for their fishery.

Download the NOAA Catch Share Policy (PDF, 26 pages).

How do they work?
Part of the catch—or a share—of a species is allocated to individual fishermen or groups. Each holder of a catch share must stop fishing when he reaches his limit. In most cases, fishermen can buy/sell or lease shares in a given year. This allows them to plan their fishing around the weather, markets, or other considerations and allows other fishery-dependent businesses to plan more effectively.

Why use catch shares?
In the United States and worldwide, catch share programs provide many benefits, including:

Ensuring annual catch limits are not exceeded to support rebuilding and sustaining U.S. fisheries.

Reducing the costs to produce seafood.

Reducing market gluts and increasing dockside prices.

Extending fishing seasons.

Reducing bycatch.

Improving fishermen’s safety.
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What would be an acceptable way to own up to and make amends after making a mistake like this? 

Someone has to have a cached/downloaded version of the original video. Along with his subsequent videos and comments should be sufficient for a fine from DFW.

It would be different if he owned up to it, but he keeps doubling down and trying to find strange reasons to justify it. Only way to learn for some is to show up in court until it really hurts.
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https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/insight/catch-shares

How do they work?

Part of the catch—or a share—of a species is allocated to individual fishermen or groups. EACH HOLDER OF A CATCH SHARE MUST STOP FISHING WHEN HE REACHES HIS LIMIT . In most cases, fishermen can buy/sell or lease shares in a given year. This allows them to plan their fishing around the weather, markets, or other considerations and allows other fishery-dependent businesses to plan more effectively

yeah ...so no. he`s a LOSER .but maybe jesus loves him .



https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/national/sustainable-fisheries/catch-share-programs-council-region



A catch share is as opposed to a derby style fishery. If you were a fan of deadliest catch back in the day, during the show they went from the free-for-all til quota met over to a catch share system in one of the early seasons.

Catch share programs save lives of commercial Bering sea crab fishermen. Not clowns in Tupperware inside SF Bay.
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If one wanted to “share their luck” with their friends (seen/overheard this while crabbing in particular ), could they hand off their rod with a fish on, or allow a buddy to pull their trap?
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If one wanted to “share their luck” with their friends (seen/overheard this while crabbing in particular ), could they hand off their rod with a fish on, or allow a buddy to pull their trap?

Sounds legit, because then that person would be landing the fish themselves. 
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If one wanted to “share their luck” with their friends (seen/overheard this while crabbing in particular ), could they hand off their rod with a fish on, or allow a buddy to pull their trap?

Sounds legit, because then that person would be landing the fish themselves.
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