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Topic: Over limit halibut - youtubers strike again  (Read 13491 times)

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Leaving this here for everyones knowledge (I'm fairly sure most of us here aren't in need of such elementary reminders, but clearly some are).

Simple and plain: anything you catch and do not release is part of your limit. Regardless of what you do with it. You cannot give away fish until you're done then keep your "last" fish for your limit like this guy here.

« Last Edit: April 10, 2023, 08:41:27 PM by christianbrat »
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I watched this video this morning and missed the part about giving fish to his friend. Right around 17:45.
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This dude already made this Youtube video private. Guess someone told him he’s a 🤡 for recording his illegal take and sharing it for all to see😂
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Looks like he took it down. Tried to use the NOAA fish share program as an explaination.. weird. Lesson learned I guess.
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It was on my suggestion list 'I hit double my limit with 30 inch halibuts?' oh but he left the short with the same title.

His last video also said "Triple limit"
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For arguments sake...   :smt002

What is the difference between boat limits and sharing your catches with a friend your fishing with in a kayak?  Say you launch together, same place, same time, even carpooled up there and back. 


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(c) Boat limit. When two or more persons that are licensed or otherwise authorized to sport fish in ocean waters off California or in the San Francisco Bay District, defined in Section 27.00, are angling for finfish aboard a vessel in these waters, fishing by all authorized persons aboard may continue until boat limits of finfish are taken and possessed aboard the vessel as authorized under this section or Section 195, Title 14, CCR.
(1) The authorization for boat limits aboard a vessel does not apply to fishing trips originating in California where fish are taken in other jurisdictions.
(2) A boat limit for a species or species group is the number of persons aboard a vessel that are licensed or otherwise authorized to sport fish in ocean waters off California, or in waters of the San Francisco Bay District, (see special conditions of Section 195, Title 14, CCR, applicable to operator and crew members of vessels licensed pursuant to Fish and Game Code 7920) multiplied by the individual daily bag limit authorized for a species or species group in those waters. With the exception of species listed in subsection (b) above, the total fish aboard a boat may not exceed the aggregate per-person daily bag limit of 20-finfish in combination of all species times the number of anglers licensed or otherwise authorized to sport fish aboard the vessel. It is unlawful to exceed the boat limit at any time.
(3) All persons aboard a vessel may be cited where violations involving boat limits are found, including, but not limited to the following violations:
(A) Over limits
(B) Possession of prohibited species
(C) Violation of size limits
(D) Fish taken out of season or in closed areas.
(4) Upon completion of a fishing trip aboard a vessel, each licensed angler or person otherwise authorized to sport fish may not possess more than the individual daily bag and possession limits. For purposes of this section, a trip is completed at the time a person disembarks from a vessel and individual possession limits apply. Special boat limit provisions apply to persons fishing aboard commercial passenger fishing vessels reporting pursuant to Section 195, Title 14, CCR.


Ducking and running away now  :smt044
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For arguments sake...   :smt002

What is the difference between boat limits and sharing your catches with a friend your fishing with in a kayak?  Say you launch together, same place, same time, even carpooled up there and back. 


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(c) Boat limit. When two or more persons that are licensed or otherwise authorized to sport fish in ocean waters off California or in the San Francisco Bay District, defined in Section 27.00, are angling for finfish aboard a vessel in these waters, fishing by all authorized persons aboard may continue until boat limits of finfish are taken and possessed aboard the vessel as authorized under this section or Section 195, Title 14, CCR.
(1) The authorization for boat limits aboard a vessel does not apply to fishing trips originating in California where fish are taken in other jurisdictions.
(2) A boat limit for a species or species group is the number of persons aboard a vessel that are licensed or otherwise authorized to sport fish in ocean waters off California, or in waters of the San Francisco Bay District, (see special conditions of Section 195, Title 14, CCR, applicable to operator and crew members of vessels licensed pursuant to Fish and Game Code 7920) multiplied by the individual daily bag limit authorized for a species or species group in those waters. With the exception of species listed in subsection (b) above, the total fish aboard a boat may not exceed the aggregate per-person daily bag limit of 20-finfish in combination of all species times the number of anglers licensed or otherwise authorized to sport fish aboard the vessel. It is unlawful to exceed the boat limit at any time.
(3) All persons aboard a vessel may be cited where violations involving boat limits are found, including, but not limited to the following violations:
(A) Over limits
(B) Possession of prohibited species
(C) Violation of size limits
(D) Fish taken out of season or in closed areas.
(4) Upon completion of a fishing trip aboard a vessel, each licensed angler or person otherwise authorized to sport fish may not possess more than the individual daily bag and possession limits. For purposes of this section, a trip is completed at the time a person disembarks from a vessel and individual possession limits apply. Special boat limit provisions apply to persons fishing aboard commercial passenger fishing vessels reporting pursuant to Section 195, Title 14, CCR.


Language clearly refers to anglers on 1 boat together but that's still a better argument than this dude claiming its legal per NOAA lol
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“What is the difference between boat limits and sharing your catches with a friend you’re fishing with in a kayak?  Say you launch together, same place, same time, even carpooled up there and back.”

I go on six packs, and for salmon there are 8 rods in the water. 2 for the captain/crew, and 6 for the clients. All rods stay out until 12 fish are landed. Go out with the same group on kayaks, and different rules apply.

Sure wouldn’t want to go on a party/six pack boat if rods had to pulled out after each individual got a limit. I’ve been on a trip where we were one fish short of a limit, and the captain is begging everyone to keep their rods in the water.
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Just don’t record when fishing with friends. Solved!😂
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Sure wouldn’t want to go on a party/six pack boat if rods had to pulled out after each individual got a limit. I’ve been on a trip where we were one fish short of a limit, and the captain is begging everyone to keep their rods in the water.
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I saw that earlier.  Dumbass.  Spoke with authority about proper fish handling too.

“What is the difference between boat limits and sharing your catches with a friend you’re fishing with in a kayak?  Say you launch together, same place, same time, even carpooled up there and back.”

I go on six packs, and for salmon there are 8 rods in the water. 2 for the captain/crew, and 6 for the clients. All rods stay out until 12 fish are landed. Go out with the same group on kayaks, and different rules apply.

Sure wouldn’t want to go on a party/six pack boat if rods had to pulled out after each individual got a limit. I’ve been on a trip where we were one fish short of a limit, and the captain is begging everyone to keep their rods in the water.

I like the Oregon rule. You can fish all the lines until the last boat but you must hand off the rod to the person who is still fishing for their limit.
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I like the Oregon rule. You can fish all the lines until the last boat but you must hand off the rod to the person who is still fishing for their limit.

This makes sense, then each person, in theory, lands their allowed number of fish.
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For arguments sake...   :smt002

What is the difference between boat limits and sharing your catches with a friend your fishing with in a kayak?  Say you launch together, same place, same time, even carpooled up there and back. 


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(c) Boat limit. When two or more persons that are licensed or otherwise authorized to sport fish in ocean waters off California or in the San Francisco Bay District, defined in Section 27.00, are angling for finfish aboard a vessel in these waters, fishing by all authorized persons aboard may continue until boat limits of finfish are taken and possessed aboard the vessel as authorized under this section or Section 195, Title 14, CCR.
(1) The authorization for boat limits aboard a vessel does not apply to fishing trips originating in California where fish are taken in other jurisdictions.
(2) A boat limit for a species or species group is the number of persons aboard a vessel that are licensed or otherwise authorized to sport fish in ocean waters off California, or in waters of the San Francisco Bay District, (see special conditions of Section 195, Title 14, CCR, applicable to operator and crew members of vessels licensed pursuant to Fish and Game Code 7920) multiplied by the individual daily bag limit authorized for a species or species group in those waters. With the exception of species listed in subsection (b) above, the total fish aboard a boat may not exceed the aggregate per-person daily bag limit of 20-finfish in combination of all species times the number of anglers licensed or otherwise authorized to sport fish aboard the vessel. It is unlawful to exceed the boat limit at any time.
(3) All persons aboard a vessel may be cited where violations involving boat limits are found, including, but not limited to the following violations:
(A) Over limits
(B) Possession of prohibited species
(C) Violation of size limits
(D) Fish taken out of season or in closed areas.
(4) Upon completion of a fishing trip aboard a vessel, each licensed angler or person otherwise authorized to sport fish may not possess more than the individual daily bag and possession limits. For purposes of this section, a trip is completed at the time a person disembarks from a vessel and individual possession limits apply. Special boat limit provisions apply to persons fishing aboard commercial passenger fishing vessels reporting pursuant to Section 195, Title 14, CCR.


Language clearly refers to anglers on 1 boat together but that's still a better argument than this dude claiming its legal per NOAA lol

what happens if you put all the kayaks together? Wouldn't it be one vessel?


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For arguments sake...   :smt002

What is the difference between boat limits and sharing your catches with a friend your fishing with in a kayak?  Say you launch together, same place, same time, even carpooled up there and back. 


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(4) Upon completion of a fishing trip aboard a vessel, each licensed angler or person otherwise authorized to sport fish may not possess more than the individual daily bag and possession limits. For purposes of this section, a trip is completed at the time a person disembarks from a vessel and individual possession limits apply. Special boat limit provisions apply to persons fishing aboard commercial passenger fishing vessels reporting pursuant to Section 195, Title 14, CCR.


Language clearly refers to anglers on 1 boat together but that's still a better argument than this dude claiming its legal per NOAA lol

what happens if you put all the kayaks together? Wouldn't it be one vessel?
I would argue that if you launched as one vessel then it would have to count as one.  BROPE up everyone!  Time to slay some limits!
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