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Topic: Why are shrimp flies for rock cod like they are?  (Read 3063 times)

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y'all missing out on garlic scented powerbait


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What ever happens to the good old days? Drop a stick of dynamite and net your catch!  :smt044


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I stopped using shrimp flies for the most part. Squid on a bare hook is just as productive.


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Lol- well thank you all for interesting and informative information... pretty much none of which answered the question I meant to ask.  I appreciate all the advice on how to catch fish (I didn't ask that), and how to drink (always helpful), and what things cost... What I didn't make clear was that i wanted to know why the straight-long shank seems to be a West Coast thing.. and the short shank, circle or octobpus hook is an east coast thing.  I was thinking the shorter shank hooks would pick up more "smalls" maybe, or attract different species.. but I didn't learn that..... but thanks for all the randomw informaiton!


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Lol- well thank you all for interesting and informative information... pretty much none of which answered the question I meant to ask.  I appreciate all the advice on how to catch fish (I didn't ask that), and how to drink (always helpful), and what things cost... What I didn't make clear was that i wanted to know why the straight-long shank seems to be a West Coast thing.. and the short shank, circle or octobpus hook is an east coast thing.  I was thinking the shorter shank hooks would pick up more "smalls" maybe, or attract different species.. but I didn't learn that..... but thanks for all the randomw informaiton!

After this statement I had to google it . I did not find much .

It seems and I may have read what I found wrong , but it seems it had or has to do with conservation ,species and fish size, feeding bites versus reaction bites ,i.e. territorial .

Here`s what I learned  a while back ..circle hooks are designed so you do not have to "set" the hook ,letting the fish set it for you and less gut hooking and easier release . But you knew/know that. 

Its one of the reasons some commercial boats switched to circles .  The straight shank strictly old school jigging  hook. More gut hook ups, tougher release of non desirable species .

As to the East-West coast thing maybe they`re more conservation minded .

Hope this wasn`t too much more  superfluous hyperbole .

Side note ; I use circle hooks when I tie my own rigs but will use straight J hooks too. I try and use anything just laying around. I have some rigs with both.


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Thanks Spiffy- I haven't gut hooked a rockfish or ling yet... so still not clear on differences in actual catch...Clearly more experiemntation is needed...


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Lol- well thank you all for interesting and informative information... pretty much none of which answered the question I meant to ask.  I appreciate all the advice on how to catch fish (I didn't ask that), and how to drink (always helpful), and what things cost... What I didn't make clear was that i wanted to know why the straight-long shank seems to be a West Coast thing.. and the short shank, circle or octobpus hook is an east coast thing.  I was thinking the shorter shank hooks would pick up more "smalls" maybe, or attract different species.. but I didn't learn that..... but thanks for all the randomw informaiton!

Circle hook will work just fine, IMO
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Thanks Spiffy- I haven't gut hooked a rockfish or ling yet... so still not clear on differences in actual catch...Clearly more experiemntation is needed...
kinda tough to gut hook a rockfish when your hook is moving up and down with the swell. I think they're the way they are because they're cheaply made in some factory in china (or hayward) and they work just fine so no one ever bothered to change them. 


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I use white/blue shimpfly rigs store-bought with the bigger, west-coast hooks and so does my fishing buddy.  He and I both catch 'em anywhere from 4 inches long to over a foot long blacks, so the hook size doesn't seem to weed out the smalls.  I also never have to try to set a hook on 'em either; just send it down to the bottom, crank 3 cranks, wait, 3 cranks, wait, repeat until it comes to the surface.  Somewhere in between I get one or two on.  If I can feel it's small, I'll send it back down for hopefully a large ling. 
Keep in mind, the rigs come with 3 hooks.  I take the bottom one off and attach a weight as more than 2 hooks is not legal. 


 

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