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Topic: squid eating rockfish  (Read 2136 times)

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Blue Jeans

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The information that I have been reading about the squid off our coast indicate that most of their diet is rockfish. What percentage of biomass below 100ft/250  is comprised of rockfish? 

I talked to Rick on the NSA and the group rate for up to 35 people is 2750 for a squid charter. Still looking for a head count. If we can't get enough people for a charter run, let's at least pick a date and try to get as many people on from NCKA as possible.

 "Kill squid....save the rockfish "

-Brian G


ex-kayaker

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You have links to the squid diet info? Seen other reports from the NSA's last squid trip with the Bio on board, was interested in seeing the results.

..........agarcia is just an ex-kayaker


rockfish

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so at $80 a head, how many squid are we talking about?  and when is the season?  could we catch them from the yaks instead?
Less Mental than before, Still savage AF tho <3

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Yaks, you'd get my vote for angler of the year.  Closest they pulled them last year was 10 miles off SC but most of the action was 15 and beyond.  Then you have to contend with them eating you should you fall over in the midst of a frenzy.  Not to mention icing and storage capacity if you want to eat them.  I think it can be done but logistics are not on our side.


Limits=none, some are on the side of conservation and preach a take only what you need and the others have a take no prisoners appraoch, its up to the angler.......however if these things are in fact cleaning out the RF, which it sounds like they might be, then you will see the later prevail.  My guess is that the boat will fish till their carrying capacity is maxed.

Season=none, boats will target them when there is noting else to fish for.....end of RF season on the 1st till salmon opens.
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basilkies

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The information that I have been reading about the squid off our coast indicate that most of their diet is rockfish. What percentage of biomass below 100ft/250  is comprised of rockfish? 

I talked to Rick on the NSA and the group rate for up to 35 people is 2750 for a squid charter. Still looking for a head count. If we can't get enough people for a charter run, let's at least pick a date and try to get as many people on from NCKA as possible.

 "Kill squid....save the rockfish "

-Brian G

Your forgetting one thing, the squid come up to eat. Once you find the squid at 500 feet or whatever you and the boat drag up several and the others follow, so the squid chase the food up or most likely rise up and feed at night.

As for fishing for them in a kayak, my understanding is the squid are known to rise to the surface in mass and in a feeding frenzy. They jet along the top of the water and go nuts. You might not need to do anything except hold on to them when they get into the kayak!

If you go out in the New Sea Angler, don't take anything valuable that you have to leave alone in a knapsack. I've heard of people having stuff stolen while on the boat. They don't require strip searches when you get off the boat, so the crooks get away with it.


mickfish

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In my younger days I cut my teeth on Rick's boat Jaws out of Berkley. I used to go on his ling cod specials on Thursdays to the nipple at least twice a month, many times I would come home with 15 fish limits of big rock cod and 5 lings over 20lbs. There is no doubt that Rick is one of the finest fisherman out there.

Since I became an Adult I have come to realize that there is more to fishing than just catching like following the law, practicing conservation, and just keeping what you eat,if you don't always catch fish its OK it can still be fun. I also realize that catching fish is Rick's livelihood and if his custumers don't catch fish he has no customers. I think you also have to respect the fishery and not abuse it. I think Rick has taken it over the line he will do almost anything to catch fish and that's not right. He has had his troubles with the DF&G and I can't believe that he is allowed to operate his boats. I also know that Rick has done a lot of good things but I feel as a Party Boat Captain you should be beyond reproach but hey that's just me. I for one will never support Rick as there are many Captains that are more deserving of my money if I catch less fish so be it. Just my 2 cents
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swellrider

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On my last kayak trip down to baja I met a fisherman whose boat was attacked by a humboldt squid. The guys arm looked like it had been scraped with a cheese grater. Each tentacle of the squid is equipped with hundreds of razor sharp teeth that grip and pull food into an eviscerating beak. He was certain that our kayaks would be targeted if we wandered into the area while they were feeding. Thank God my clients understood very little spanish. I like calamari but not enough to mess with those bastards from a small boat.
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SBD

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Ditto to what mickfish said.  He'll never get a dime out of me.  I recently had lunch with insiene, and he said he had been ripped off by thaat boat a few years in a row when they chartered the WHOLE boat.

BTW-people have caught humboldt squid off a yak.  Corey caught one in LJ last year.


bluefin17

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I took my dad on that boat last year and the fishing was great, but the waste of rockfish from barotrauma and nobody even trying to do anything about it and not even caring was just too much for me.


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OK, so that boat sems pretty bad, and using the yak seems like bad news as well.... I guess I'll stick with freshwater fun untill Salmon and RF open up again...
Thanks for the info.
Less Mental than before, Still savage AF tho <3

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ganoderma

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Some footage of the "red devils"

- Ganoderma

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swellrider

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I crossed Lake Michigan from Kalamazoo to Chicago 80+ miles back in '94. We took turns sleeping in our Kayak overnight. We lashed our kayaks together with a 6 foot outrigger pole and thought we would

have wind for our makeshift sails. It never showed up so we just slept and paddled out in open and woke to that beautiful Chi-town skyline. If you do it take a partner and a gps and ditch the SOT for

something you can slide down into.
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swellrider

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A Tarpon---Forget about it, maybe an X-factor or Cobra boat.

We Left michigan early in the am and got into chicago around 9-10 the next morning. It was St.paddys day because I remember they dyed the river green and we joined in the procession. We

Circumnavigated  Lakes Michigan and Superior that spring/summer and finished it off by paddling the entire Boundary waters canoe wilderness area. Was my butt sore, you bet your A## it was. Not for the

weak or faint of heart
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scubamike1974

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The information that I have been reading about the squid off our coast indicate that most of their diet is rockfish. What percentage of biomass below 100ft/250  is comprised of rockfish? 

I talked to Rick on the NSA and the group rate for up to 35 people is 2750 for a squid charter. Still looking for a head count. If we can't get enough people for a charter run, let's at least pick a date and try to get as many people on from NCKA as possible.

 "Kill squid....save the rockfish "

-Brian G

I was talking to my dad and a friend this weekend about going after these giant squid. Not only would it help the rockfish population, but I hear that they are really fun to catch.
I am in for a trip.