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Topic: Octopus Jigs  (Read 4208 times)

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GrimKeeper

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I can make mine as they are, but I'm in the process of saving up for having aluminum molds made that will include 3 & 5 oz. double hook jigs poured into the head cavity ($10,000 endeavor).

They're a pain to rig because it's hard to make a consistent head cavity that will allow for a jighead to be inserted. And the molds are handmade, tentacles hand trimmed and basically made in my chicken coup/barn, so yes, somewhat goofy looking :smt005

Thanks for posting my link guys.


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Jesse, I love your Octobaits and have had good success with them. They are a bit awkward to rig but they work. I'm always on the hunt for a cool new way to catch fish. When you get the new ones put together let me know.

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Jesse, I love your Octobaits and have had good success with them. They are a bit awkward to rig but they work. I'm always on the hunt for a cool new way to catch fish. When you get the new ones put together let me know.
ruben

I'll take some of the new baits as well.  Let me know when available.


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I can make mine as they are, but I'm in the process of saving up for having aluminum molds made that will include 3 & 5 oz. double hook jigs poured into the head cavity ($10,000 endeavor).

They're a pain to rig because it's hard to make a consistent head cavity that will allow for a jighead to be inserted. And the molds are handmade, tentacles hand trimmed and basically made in my chicken coup/barn, so yes, somewhat goofy looking :smt005

Thanks for posting my link guys.
Sounds like it's time to get a Kickstarter deal going?   :smt003


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Any particular color that people recommend?  Was looking to pick a few up.



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jigged these up fresh a couple of days ago from the boys at 831 tackle . Gotta say there jigs are durable.

I laugh and spit in your face Mr lingcod. until we meet again.

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I can make mine as they are, but I'm in the process of saving up for having aluminum molds made that will include 3 & 5 oz. double hook jigs poured into the head cavity ($10,000 endeavor).

They're a pain to rig because it's hard to make a consistent head cavity that will allow for a jighead to be inserted. And the molds are handmade, tentacles hand trimmed and basically made in my chicken coup/barn, so yes, somewhat goofy looking :smt005

Thanks for posting my link guys.

Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like there have got to be some solutions available for less than $10,000.

Have you tried simply suspending a jighead inside the octopus mold using, say, a fly tying vise? Seems like you could get a pretty consistent product that way. You could also extend the eye of the jighead using SS wire, if it doesn't reach the outside of the octo body (make a tiny slit in your octo mold where you want the line tie, and wedge your eyelet in there).

Or.... You could also potentially scrap the idea of a jighead and mold in a round weight w/ eyes on both sides (drill hole in weight, get creative with SS wire). Then you could attach whatever hooks you want w/ a split ring. Maybe pirate an idea from the Shimano Lunanus jig. They even sell replacement hook sets for the Lucanus.



I'm not sure if any of this is helpful, but GODDAM $10,000 is a lot of money to invest into a single lure mold unless you're very confident it'll create a product that'll work perfectly out of the mold and sell quickly. What happens if the lures that pop out aren't balanced correctly and look like crap in the water? Do you make an adjustment, drop another $10,000, and try again?

I dunno... Maybe your financial situation is a little better than mine, but I'd look long and hard for a jerry rigged method to dial in your exact design, THEN replicate your jerry rigged system with quality molds.

If I had $10,000, I'd buy a boat and go chase tuna...


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:smt044... How the hell did I miss this.. I knew there was something funny about you.... :smt005 :smt005 :smt005

nothing gets past you secret squirrel.  :smt002

Alex
« Last Edit: May 30, 2015, 07:59:01 AM by Bulldog---Alex »
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I honestly don't mean to be a downer, but I thought of something else worth considering before the $10,000 endeavor.

If only a thin layer of plastic surrounds the lead head, banging on rocks and ripping through lingcod teeth may be an issue.


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I honestly don't mean to be a downer, but I thought of something else worth considering before the $10,000 endeavor.

If only a thin layer of plastic surrounds the lead head, banging on rocks and ripping through lingcod teeth may be an issue.

That seems like a positive to me.
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AlexB

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I honestly don't mean to be a downer, but I thought of something else worth considering before the $10,000 endeavor.

If only a thin layer of plastic surrounds the lead head, banging on rocks and ripping through lingcod teeth may be an issue.

That seems like a positive to me.

Yes and no. I think it would be positive if you could catch more than one or two lingcod before the lure gets mangled.


GrimKeeper

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I can make mine as they are, but I'm in the process of saving up for having aluminum molds made that will include 3 & 5 oz. double hook jigs poured into the head cavity ($10,000 endeavor).

They're a pain to rig because it's hard to make a consistent head cavity that will allow for a jighead to be inserted. And the molds are handmade, tentacles hand trimmed and basically made in my chicken coup/barn, so yes, somewhat goofy looking :smt005

Thanks for posting my link guys.

Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like there have got to be some solutions available for less than $10,000.

Have you tried simply suspending a jighead inside the octopus mold using, say, a fly tying vise? Seems like you could get a pretty consistent product that way. You could also extend the eye of the jighead using SS wire, if it doesn't reach the outside of the octo body (make a tiny slit in your octo mold where you want the line tie, and wedge your eyelet in there).

Or.... You could also potentially scrap the idea of a jighead and mold in a round weight w/ eyes on both sides (drill hole in weight, get creative with SS wire). Then you could attach whatever hooks you want w/ a split ring. Maybe pirate an idea from the Shimano Lunanus jig. They even sell replacement hook sets for the Lucanus.



I'm not sure if any of this is helpful, but GODDAM $10,000 is a lot of money to invest into a single lure mold unless you're very confident it'll create a product that'll work perfectly out of the mold and sell quickly. What happens if the lures that pop out aren't balanced correctly and look like crap in the water? Do you make an adjustment, drop another $10,000, and try again?

I dunno... Maybe your financial situation is a little better than mine, but I'd look long and hard for a jerry rigged method to dial in your exact design, THEN replicate your jerry rigged system with quality molds.

If I had $10,000, I'd buy a boat and go chase tuna...

The cost is based on having aluminum molds made, not the rigging. As they are, the baits are obviously hand made, and most people say they're cool and they do catch fish. That's all good, but if I want to actually market these things, a clean, consistent, professional, fishable out of the box bait is what needs to happen. A jig suspending channel in a two piece, top pour mold isn't going to tack on price, it's the over all programming and milling as a whole that's so gd expensive. You should look at the price of an injector machine if you want to see pricey. That's why top pour baits are so prevalent.

And with the plastic around the jig getting destroyed, that's just part of the game. It would be unrealistic to expect any soft bait used in the ocean to withstand fish after fish and not end up unuseable. I do believe it would have more strength with a rig poured into it though.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2015, 08:40:08 AM by GrimKeeper »


AlexB

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So you're still planning to go with top pour, if I'm understanding you correctly?

Have you come across this blog in your research? May be a cheaper alternative to the aluminum approach. 3D printing is getting cheaper by the day. Not sure the same can be said for metalwork.

http://blog.ponoko.com/2013/05/16/diy-fishing-lures-from-3d-printed-models-and-silicone-molds/


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Wow, I didn't know those molds can get real pricey. The only problem I see is when you start marketing these things and they sell, other companies will surely jack your design and make their own version of it.