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Topic: Attn: Erik / Kzreelrods = re: fishing rod  (Read 4467 times)

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mooch

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Just wanted to know your opinion on this new rod by Lamiglas = the XMG 50
http://www.lamiglas.com/prod_indiv.php?id=46

Mike / Mickfish has something similar (I believe) and I was really impresssed with the increased sensitivity of the  rod without the foam or cork handle. I think this will be the future of all fishing rods  :smt045 What are your thoughts?
« Last Edit: March 17, 2006, 10:20:34 AM by Mooch »


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The texalium tubing used for the handles is great for sensitivity.  I can put this type of grip on any kind of rod.  The texalium tubing material has been available to custom rod builders for some time now.   As I understand it, Texalium is basically woven graphite or fiberglass (not sure which) with the outermost layer impregnated with aluminum to make them highly shatter resistent and more durable than standard woven graphite tubing.

Sensitivity (transmission of vibration) is strictly a function of the stiffness to weight ratio.  Anything you can do to lighten a rod up will increase sensitivity.  Your biggest gains in sensitivity come from a light and stiff blank and selecting guides and installation methods that provide the lightest tip section possible.  As far as grips go, the lighter and stiffer the grip material, the better it will transmit vibration.  As long as there is a solid connection between the tubing and the blank, the sensitivity will be very very good. 

Personally, I like natrual cork because of the feel in the hand since it can be shaped to fit your hand.  I also like the look of cork personally.  But for situations where you want to get the absolute most sensitivity from a rod, this tubing is probably tough to beat.

As far as rod blanks go, Lamiglas has come out with some great blanks this past year.  When you're in the a rod shop, take a look at the Inshore Classic graphite rods... (IC80HF)... these are some great rod blanks that I can see as being extremely versatile for the type of fishing we do.

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Hey Mooch... so when are you going get Erik to build you one?  :smt002
If you're going to spend that kind of money, why not go custom?
« Last Edit: March 17, 2006, 12:11:02 PM by ChuckE »
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Hey Mooch... so when are you going get Erik to build you one?  :smt002


it will happen sooner or later....now that the truck is finally paid off....I've got a serious "gotta buy" list going  :smt002 So far, the trip to Alaska will take priority over anything else  :smt007


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Inshore Classic graphite rods... (IC80HF)... these are some great rod blanks that I can see as being extremely versatile for the type of fishing we do.

Erik - I have this rod - and I use it for trolling for salmon,  jigging for rock fish and halibut fishing. Definitely one of the few all purpose rods in the market :smt023
« Last Edit: March 17, 2006, 12:17:21 PM by Mooch »


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Erik, are you thinking longer rod now that you have a longer kayak?

Also, thanks for the comments regarding lightness and stiffness affecting sensitivity,
boy nobody knows rods like you do.

so really there is no way for a fibreglass rod to match a graphite rodefor sensitivity because
the fibreglass will always be heavier?

Of course I guess there is such a thing as sensitive enough especially given ocean fishing,
lings don't nibble after all, nonetheless there is feeling the bottom, etc, etc, so it seems
to me that more sensitive is always good. Is there such a thing as too sensitive?
I guess comfort matters.

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lings don't nibble after all

No but sometimes they do just slurp it in...kinda like bass fishing.  Since switching to Spectra is amazing what you can feel with a decent rod.  Lots of things I wouldn't have noticed in the past have turned iton fish nowadays.


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Erik,what do you think about the SARDINIA SERIES L 870 C? i do do a hunred right now! althought i much rather have you build one for me. thank's for your opinion
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Erik, are you thinking longer rod now that you have a longer kayak?

Not really.  I still primarily use 7-foot rods but there's nothing wrong with an 8-footer either.  It just depends on the rod and what it's going to be used for. 

Erik,what do you think about the SARDINIA SERIES L 870 C? i do do a hunred right now! althought i much rather have you build one for me. thank's for your opinion

I think the Sardina rods are a decent value for fiberglass rods.  I'd compare them with the equivalent Seeker and Calstar rods and see which is more to your liking. 

I REALLY like the Lamiglas Tri-flex graphite/fiberglass composite rods BL7025 or BL7030.  They are very light in the hand and have a ton of power for a rod their size.  For rockfish / halibut rod, they would be hard to beat.  Similar action as the Seeker Black Steel rods... which is slighly less fast than the Calstar Graphiters, but they seem to be lighter in weight than the Seeker Black Steel series. 

http://www.lamiglas.com/prod_indiv.php?id=30
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I REALLY like the Lamiglas Tri-flex graphite/fiberglass composite rods BL7025 or BL7030.  They are very light in the hand and have a ton of power for a rod their size.  For rockfish / halibut rod, they would be hard to beat.
Does anybody know of any local shops that have the Lamiglass Tri-flex?
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Erik, are you thinking longer rod now that you have a longer kayak?

Not really.  I still primarily use 7-foot rods but there's nothing wrong with an 8-footer either.  It just depends on the rod and what it's going to be used for. 
 

Don't forget Eric is about 10 feet tall with a 20 foot wingspan so reaching around the bow is not a problem for him.  :smt002


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Does anybody know of any local shops that have the Lamiglass Tri-flex?

I haven't been able to find them around here... at least not at either of the Oudoor Pro Shops.  Calstar, Seeker, and Loomis seem to have the market on composite saltwater rods around these parts.
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Also erik's "boat" is still a bit shorter than ours Bill 14 vs 15 feet,  :smt005

I can just barely get a 7 footer around the bow on my scupper pro TW.

I think a 15' boat requires an 8+ foot rod for me. at least for any big fish
that has to be maneuvered around the boat to the correct side for gaffing,
netting, etc.

john m. airey