Barbed and barbless hooks in possession

Hoping some one can chime in. If you have a salmon on board and are now vertical fishing (drifting) for rockfish. You must have circle barbless hooks. Barbless "J" hooks are for trolling.

I might be wrong on this, but I think you only need to use the barbless circle hook if you are mooching/jigging using bait.  I believe you can use a barbless J hook if you are using lets say a plastic swimbait. 

Bait + Not Trolling = Barbless circle hooks
Bait + Trolling = Barbless single shank hooks
No bait + Not trolling = Barbless single shank hooks

I've been wondering,

When you're trout fishing places that say things like Barb less Artificial only, anything with scent is considered not artificial.

This makes me thing that a swimbait unless it has no scent on it would be using 'bait', and would have to be trolled without it being a barbless circle hooked jig head?

has anyone else overthought this as much as I have?

Plus, part that hasn't been pasted into here

*regulation for not trolling*

" The distance between the two hooks (Single Shank, Single Point Barbless Circle Hooks ) must not exceed 5 inches when measured from the top of the eye of the top hook to the inner base of the curve of the lower hook and both hooks must be permanently tied in place (hard tied). "

so you wouldn't be able to use a normal dropper loop rig unless your hooks were 5 inches apart, very close for a regular set up for how I normally fish for rockfish.

so something to consider, if you were to drift for rockfish with bait having salmon on board, the barbless circle hooks would have to be 5" apart.

Hoping some one can chime in. If you have a salmon on board and are now vertical fishing (drifting) for rockfish. You must have circle barbless hooks. Barbless "J" hooks are for trolling.

I might be wrong on this, but I think you only need to use the barbless circle hook if you are mooching/jigging using bait.  I believe you can use a barbless J hook if you are using lets say a plastic swimbait. 

Bait + Not Trolling = Barbless circle hooks
Bait + Trolling = Barbless single shank hooks
No bait + Not trolling = Barbless single shank hooks

I've been wondering,

When you're trout fishing places that say things like Barb less Artificial only, anything with scent is considered not artificial.

This makes me thing that a swimbait unless it has no scent on it would be using 'bait', and would have to be trolled without it being a barbless circle hooked jig head?

has anyone else overthought this as much as I have?

Plus, part that hasn't been pasted into here

*regulation for not trolling*

" The distance between the two hooks (Single Shank, Single Point Barbless Circle Hooks ) must not exceed 5 inches when measured from the top of the eye of the top hook to the inner base of the curve of the lower hook and both hooks must be permanently tied in place (hard tied). "

so you wouldn't be able to use a normal dropper loop rig unless your hooks were 5 inches apart, very close for a regular set up for how I normally fish for rockfish.

so something to consider, if you were to drift for rockfish with bait having salmon on board, the barbless circle hooks would have to be 5" apart.

Yes technically scent is considered bait by DFW definition.  The only question is will DFW actually try to verify if your swimbait was scented or not?  Who knows, but I suppose if you ran into a real dick, he could probably try to ticket you for it.  I never fish for both species in a single trip so I usually don't worry about this. 

As for the dropper setup, I'm not quite sure, but sounds like a no go.  The way its worded, it seems like its talking about tying the hooks inline. I think this 5" thing was added several years ago, previously sliding hook was legal I think. 

I give salmon fishing lessons.   

Via Zoom?

if I have salmon on-board, can I use a treble hook to fish for halibut after? Some YT and seasoned yaker does it so can I ? lol

I didn’t check out the zoom meeting... that’s what they’re teaching people!?