Commercial Dungeness crab season delay, Recreation as-well?

Hello yakers!

I'm seeing news about Dungeness crab season delay for commercial fishing tell Cec 1st. Does this affect recreation Dungeness?

Are we still green-lighted for Nov 7th?

Thanks in advance,
Cheers!

Shouldn't affect sport.

Shouldn't affect sport.

On the contrary, Eric...  it means we'll have a better catch until December.   

Same thing happened last year.  It bodes really really well for recreational. 

Inside info. Probably accurate. Next year commercial restrictions will apply to sport crab gear as well with regard to whales.

Inside info. Probably accurate. Next year commercial restrictions will apply to sport crab gear as well with regard to whales.

We could go to timed releases.  For rec, one time use galvanic releases are no more than a couple bucks each.  Commercial acoustic releases are more expensive of an investment but they allow for entanglement free fishing and controlled recall of traps through sonar.  There's several options out there. 

We shouldn't have to cripple an entire industry or sport fishermen when the solution is simple, cheap, and effective.

Inside info. Probably accurate. Next year commercial restrictions will apply to sport crab gear as well with regard to whales.

We could go to timed releases.  For rec, one time use galvanic releases are no more than a couple bucks each.  Commercial acoustic releases are more expensive of an investment but they allow for entanglement free fishing and controlled recall of traps through sonar.  There's several options out there. 

We shouldn't have to cripple an entire industry or sport fishermen when the solution is simple, cheap, and effective.

That sounds pretty awesome. Also effective against poachers. Can you post a link to the device you're referring to? Thanks!

Inside info. Probably accurate. Next year commercial restrictions will apply to sport crab gear as well with regard to whales.

We could go to timed releases.  For rec, one time use galvanic releases are no more than a couple bucks each.  Commercial acoustic releases are more expensive of an investment but they allow for entanglement free fishing and controlled recall of traps through sonar.  There's several options out there. 

We shouldn't have to cripple an entire industry or sport fishermen when the solution is simple, cheap, and effective.

That sounds pretty awesome. Also effective against poachers. Can you post a link to the device you're referring to? Thanks!

These are the simple ones:

http://neptunemarineproducts.com/galvanic-timed-releases/

you have to dial in the time with some practice, it depends on temperature and salinity of the water at the bottom of the ocean. 

The acoustic releases are more expensive and higher tech and really only practical for commercial or charter operations that are fishing for an entire season.  There is a lot of resistance to the idea of timed releases in the industry, mostly about cost and reliability, but the technology is there and if they could fish the entire season instead of having it cut short a month on the front and six weeks on the back because of whale entanglements, maybe it's worth it?

For us though the $1-2 per single use galvanic releases are a pretty easy choice if it means we can fish.

These are the simple ones:

http://neptunemarineproducts.com/galvanic-timed-releases/

you have to dial in the time with some practice, it depends on temperature and salinity of the water at the bottom of the ocean. 

That's pretty cool. Just curious whether those would be legal to use under current regs...

They dont want a  way for people to safely nonentangle whales they want to ban crabbing.

Can I get I count of how many of our members have personally on the water seen an entangled whale. Since we are close to the water and whales that should give us some determination if this is all BS or not.

 My personal observation is that there are currently more whales in California waters than I have ever seen. I think the population is up. Yet our fearless leaders with rabid intent on banning crabing due to entanglement. It seems to me that  a real  scientific study to determine how many are entangled and  were the lines come from should have been   done. It would not suprise me if the save the whales people  entangled the whales on purpose to get crabing banned becouse they hate the idea that anyone  should be able to catch a crab so much.   I guess it is just as likely  that the Japenese Whalers  Harpon lines are the real entanglement issue.
They used the same bullshit science on lead banning in California. It was a blatant cant ban guns and hunting lets make them suffer and ban lead for bullets scam.
If it was something  other than BS  then lets protect wildlife/fish that are being harmed they would have to do something  to  not allow the  birth control pills, anti depressant,chemo drugs,pain medicine to be pissed pooped and flushed down our rivers and out to the ocean. Not even including the mercury from lightbulbs.

These are the simple ones:

http://neptunemarineproducts.com/galvanic-timed-releases/

you have to dial in the time with some practice, it depends on temperature and salinity of the water at the bottom of the ocean. 

That's pretty cool. Just curious whether those would be legal to use under current regs...

Doesn't seem like it would be a problem.  Nothing in the regs say that the buoys must be floating at/above the water line when the traps are deployed.  Those galvanic releases can be easily added to already compliant traps.  They seem pretty cool to reduce poaching.  You just have to time your arrival a bit.

c) Crab traps:

(1) Crab traps shall have at least two rigid circular openings of not less than four and one-quarter inches inside diameter so constructed that the lowest portion of each opening is no lower than five inches from the top of the trap.

(2) Crab traps shall contain at least one destruct device of a single strand of untreated cotton twine size No. 120 or less that creates an unobstructed escape opening in the top or upper half of the trap of at least five inches in diameter when the destruct attachment material corrodes or fails.

(3) Every crab trap except those used under authority of subsection 29.85(a)(5) of these regulations shall be marked with a buoy. Each buoy shall be legibly marked to identify the operator’s GO ID number as stated on his/her sport fishing license.

(4) Crab traps shall not be deployed and used in ocean waters seven days prior to the opening of the Dungeness crab season.

Us sport guys get a much needed head start now, like others have noted I don't think our season will be affected at all. Good luck out there!

Smells like classic California bureaucracy. Scientist who can’t decide if the earth is heating up or cooling down are going to tell you if you are allowed to catch a crab. Meanwhile as stated above unbelievable amounts of petro chemicals and pharmaceuticals are being flushed into the ocean but if they tried to do anything about that big Pharma and big oil would stop them in their tracks. It’s much easier to go after the poor fishermen who are just eking out a living.

Smells like classic California bureaucracy

Right, that’s all it is.