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Topic: Hillbilly sand cart  (Read 2406 times)

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First off, thanks to all the folks who helped me with this project...I am a good copy cat. I have not used the cart yet, but I am planning an extended camp vacation on the beach in southern Baja soon. I took up the advice here and went with the larger wheels from Wheeleez, 30cm, but the cheaper style, about $150.00 with shipping.
   Next, to note is the width is about one inch wider on each side of my Outback. And I have no intention on packing the wheels on the Outback when on the water....hope this works out. Also of interest is the cost invested, I would guess about $180.00. Maybe the best feature is that the weight is supported by the entire bottom of the kayak. I will see how is goes. THANKS AGAIN EVERYBODY! Ron


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Hey Ron, if you've spent $180 building this, why not just buy the Wheelez cart? I had built two PVC carts before I decided that enough was enough. I haven't had a PVC project that didn't break on me. Hate to see you get stranded in Baja without a cart.

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Sweet looking cart.
You might want to add a full length axel. I've built a few PVC carts and a full wheel to wheel axel is a must. Especially in the sand. Home Depot has some 5/8th all thread works great. You can see your cart is already bowing a little on the bottom. 
I would defiantly test it in sand with a loaded kayak before going Mexico


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I made the same type but kept the horizontal supports instead of scupper hole post type I strap it onto the yak... One pot hole or rock and those uprights might snap. Try it out @ any rough area to be sure as to snapping strength. Full length axle using all thread is a must for strength
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Man o man, I should have taken more pictures as I was building it. It has a 1/2 in solid rod thru it...1inch aluminum threaded into a 1 inch pvc fitting...the 1 inch aluminum is sleeved with 3/4 inch aluminum. I will shoot more pictures off the kayak. The cart from Wheeleez is about $250.00 with the same size wheels. The 1/2 rod I drilled at each end and used a safety type pin. Tomorrow I will add more pics. Thanks again to all...Ron


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Hey Ron, if you've spent $180 building this, why not just buy the Wheelez cart? I had built two PVC carts before I decided that enough was enough. I haven't had a PVC project that didn't break on me. Hate to see you get stranded in Baja without a cart.

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+1 my hobie cart was 195 but it only had the 24cm wheeleze
My biggest worry is that my wife(when I'm dead)will sell my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it


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I'll be heading  to Pt. Arena...about 5 miles south of Isla Cerralvo...then try Los Frailes...then maybe Nine Palms. Try to stay at least 6 weeks,...bringing fishing and dive gear, mt. bike, and surf boards....what am I forgetting? The Kayak!
   The Hobie cart is $195 plus tax, but looks solid...I just wanted larger wheels.   If the PVC fails, I will whip up a full aluminum cart. Thanks again to all the ideas and comments, Ron


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Ok Hobie owners, you are a hard act to please. High standards! Here are some more shots. It has a 1/2 axle approximately 44 inches long. At each end...if you look close, you can see a type of safety pin I snagged at Lowes. The wheels come off easy. Also super cool is at the 1 inch PVC tee, the top is threaded...with about 2 inches of 1 inch aluminum conduit,...then sleeved with 3/4 inch conduit, for strength. Glued together with Gorilla glue. 
   I used this idea to make some awesome downriggers. Look close at the pictures and you can see the aluminum conduit, as I removed a small piece of foam for the picture. Also used schedule 40 PVC for strength. IF this set-up breaks, I will use all aluminum conduit.  The reason I spent 600 man hours and $180.00 building? I enjoy it! I hope to use it on the Northern California coast and Baja in May. Thanks for the ideas and suggestions, Ron


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Thanks for the follow up Ron. Looks a lot more sturdy than the ones I've built. Please know that none of us were picking on your build. Some of us had learned the hard way, and wouldn't want any newcomers to follow the wrong path. But it looks like your build is very solid. In my very first ncka hookup at Stump Beach, my PVC cart shattered within 50ft of the parking lot. Needless to say I bit the bullet and purchased the Wheelez after that trip. Building you own equipment and rigging up the yak is very satisfying. To me that's half the fun of kayak fishing. Good luck in Baja.

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super cool lucky13, its great to be held to a high standard. But, I may go 25 feet at Stillwater Cove up north and it may all go bad! And yes, I agree, a large part of owning a boat, or kayak is rigging it. I should be heading north soon for some spear fishing. Thanks to all, Ron


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You guys made a great point ,it is half the fun.being able to rig it how you want your yak to come out.tight lines and good luck on your trip.dont forget the camera or lots of pics
My biggest worry is that my wife(when I'm dead)will sell my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it


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I was another guy who built a couple of carts, then went for the wheeleze. :smt003

Your cart looks good BUT....(and this is just my opinion)...I would beware of using any through-the-scupper type cart with a loaded kayak over rough terrain. It looks like you uprights are aluminum, and when the cart cants back under load it will exert some serious leverage on the scuppers and in some instances (or over time) can wear them through or crack them. You get a pinhole in the scupper tube (where it cannot be seen) and then your yak starts taking on water when you are out at sea.....seen it happen before.

This is not meant to bash your build at all, I know a number of anglers who have used plug in type carts with no issues, but there are also those who ended up with a sinking boat. IMHO plug in carts are best for light yaks rolled over flat ground.
My yak is heavy when loaded and is often bumped over rocks etc, so I prefer a cradle-style that secures to the kayak with straps.
Just something to be aware of, especially since you are planning a nice 'out-there" trip to Mx.
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I would beware of using any through-the-scupper type cart with a loaded kayak over rough terrain. It looks like you uprights are aluminum, and when the cart cants back under load it will exert some serious leverage on the scuppers and in some instances (or over time) can wear them through or crack them. You get a pinhole in the scupper tube (where it cannot be seen) and then your yak starts taking on water when you are out at sea.....seen it happen before.

This was my concern too. Although, it looks like the cart does a good job of distributing the weight over a broader area than just the scuppers.
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