EEL RIVER salmon article

http://www.times-standard.com/localnews/ci_16656489

This is the kind of Crap that needs to be moderated fist good run in years and the locals are just encouraging people to come up and fish it really makes a mockery of the Restoration efforts. If the locals don't put out the effort to protect the runs why should we give a crap.

Buried in the article down when  a lot of people are all ready grabbing their rods.

Both chinook and steelhead are federally protected, which has led to regulations on logging, fishing and gravel extraction.

Thanks for posting this article, Jason - let's keep informing NCKA about the state of the fisheries on the Eel.

This is the kind of Crap that needs to be moderated fist good run in years and the locals are just encouraging people to come up and fish it really makes a mockery of the Restoration efforts. If the locals don't put out the effort to protect the runs why should we give a crap.

The fact that it's open to fishing makes a mockery of the restoration efforts.  When people follow the rules they shouldn't be made to feel like bad guys.  When you slam people who both follow the rules AND try to get the word out about the degraded fishery and why it should possibly be closed, that's when you are "killing the messenger".

Are you saying the Times-Standard should be moderated, or redwoodfox?  Or me?...

I posted that hardcore Eel salmon porn video to show just what a joke it is that it's open when the salmon are endangered.  And to think, I got a call last year from a "special agent" with the feds who asked me to remove an Eel River salmon video because I speak out about the state of the fishery - and, OMG!, I fish too!!!

It's looking like caring about the resource isn't accepted unless you also refuse to make it part of your life.  It's part of my life, and you won't change that.  I'll fish and put the word out about the fishery.

Why don't you take the matter up with DFG and NMFS like I did?

Everybody and thier mother knows about the run - I was there yesterday and met a guy from Novato who'd heard about it.  Not only was there that T-S article but it's been mentioned in other articles and posted about on other sites. 

It's pretty cool, though . . it's all catch and release and F&G are also aware - they were there yesterday checking people at High Rock.  Not only that but a huge run in is happening on the Smith, where you can keep a fish, and is drawing a lot of anglers up that way.  Even on the Eel, everybody was talking about the Smith and, from what I hear, what's happening on the Smith makes the Eel look like nothing.

BTW, I suck at Salmon fishing because in the middle of the most epic run ever I couldn't catch a freaking fish   

Thanks eric 

Eric Where did I slam anyone Redwood Fox didn't say anything? I really don't care what you do Eric I just don't think we should encourge people to fish a threatened run on this site.

I posted that hardcore Eel salmon porn video to show just what a joke it is that it's open when the salmon are endangered.  And to think, I got a call last year from a "special agent" with the feds who asked me to remove an Eel River salmon video because I speak out about the state of the fishery - and, OMG!, I fish too!!!

What was the agents name that called you I heard they asked you to take it down because you were lifting a Threatened Spicies out of the water by it's gills which is not legal.

Mike - I think I reacted strongly to your post just as it appears you reacted strongly to Jason's.  I'm moving on from this thread. 

I don't think I overreacted at all sad  that I felt had to. I used to be Proud what NCKA stood for now not so much.

I just get up in arms about Logging being the first thing to be blamed for fishery degradation.... Dams, commercial fishing, and diversion of water, hurt fish populations much more.... unless your causing a mudslide land slide from a storm logging is a none factor. Trust me Ive worked on the studies.

I just get up in arms about Logging being the first thing to be blamed for fishery degradation.... Dams, commercial fishing, and diversion of water, hurt fish populations much more.... unless your causing a mudslide land slide from a storm logging is a none factor. Trust me Ive worked on the studies.

Not really what we were talking about but I think even Abking and I will agree to disagree with you. I could go on and on about what happened in the old days. It is still going on today. Quote below is from an article about a lawsuit in 2003. Do you work for GP or PLC ?

Pollution caused by logging operations is extremely common. The federal EPA and state of California have found that 85% of the northern California rivers and streams, including Bear Creek and the Eel River, are severely polluted by logging. The devastating effects of logging pollution on aquatic habitat are the primary cause of reduced coho salmon and steelhead populations, which now require federal protection.

The lawsuit charges that Pacific Lumber Company is discharging massive amounts of pollution through ditches, channels, and other "point sources" without necessary pollution control permits. Under the CWA, it is illegal to discharge pollution into the waters of the United States from "discrete conveyance points" without permits.

"It's time the logging industry faced up to the fact that they are serious polluters of our nation's waters, causing massive erosion that is smothering critical fish habitat and spoiling people's water supplies – and that pollution is illegal," said Earthjustice attorney Mike Lozeau. "The Clean Water Act's pollution control requirements are one of the most successful and cost-efficient pollution control programs ever devised. Yesterday's ruling finally makes timber companies clean up their act in the woods."

Bear Creek is a tributary of the Eel River basin located between Humboldt Redwoods State Park and the Maxxam/Pacific Lumber's headquarter town of Scotia. It is essential habitat for protected salmon species, but the California Department of Fish and Game discovered this habitat had been "essentially erased" in the late 1990's after extensive logging was completed. Approximately 75% of the watershed has been logged and sprayed with herbicides in the last fifteen years, and 39 miles of dirt roads now cross its eight-square miles of hillsides. The lawsuit contends that investigations by Pacific Lumber's own consultants show that hundreds of Pacific Lumber drainpipes, culverts and ditches are dumping thousands of tons of pollution from areas that were recently clearcut or otherwise logged.