gps transducer info.

Hi guys, does any one have knowledge of problems from puting the GPS antenna to close to the depth finder transducer?  I can't seem to find any info. on my install directions 

Are you having probelms or are you just being cautious?

I think most of us place our transducers inside the hull of our kayaks, but also placing the GPS antenna inside the hull might not work so well.

As for interference issues, I believe since one is based on radio waves (GPS) and the other on sound waves (sonar transducer) there shouldn't be any interference that I know of.  I suppose there could be some interference from the depth finder monitor to the GPS antenna, but I doubt it.

Here are some photos from Sean (scwafish)'s install of a Matrix 17 with GPS.  The GPS antenna is right behind the monitor.


and the transducer is mounted to the bottom of the hull just below the antenna and monitor.


I haven't heard Sean (or who ever he did the install for) complain about interference issues.

Brian

My X-factor is similar to that one, but flip flopped.  I have done others either way. 

hi guy's thanks for the tips and the pics, what a relief I had holes drilled wires run the works and just as I was about to fall asleep    now I need to work on the battery thing,    well the rudders in so that's done 

I know a little about GPS. There are 24 satellites. actually 27 with 3 extra.
they are arranged in a pattern about the earth such that you can see a good
collection from every point on the planet.

you need 3 to get reliable position, 4 to get altitude, and in general, the more the better.

satelllite acquisition can take a while, several minutes sometimes. that's why starting
up a GPS unit isn't always quick, unless it remembered where it was when it was turned
off and you didn't confuse it by travelling to china with it off.

you usually must be outside. the satellite signal will not get through a ceiling but it will
get through windows.

Basically as along as the receiver can see a decent area of sky, you are good.

sonar and GPS reception should not interfere with each other.

It is common these days to have a GPS receiver, bluetooth transceiver
so that your bluetooth equipped cellphone can talk to your GPS receiver.

most cellphone chipsets these days include GPS receiver hardware but it is not usually
put to use because of the inability to recieve inside a building. Nextel stands out
by having GPS service on their phones.

see http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/gps.htm

thanks John for the GPS info.

Wow blueyak differently has issues with new technology. truth is there is all sorts of fishing that a fish finder does no good what so ever Steelhead fishing, fishing for sturgeon, catfish, bass,striper,Halibut, ice fishing blah blagh blagghh. If you read my post on the questions to blueyak you would see I said a lot of time I would ask locals in the area, or the nearest bait shop to where I'm fishing whats the bite on. ( what kind of bait or lure is hot right now) I guess that's cheating in some way as well. hey which side of the lake is best for trolling, how deep have they been running lately, or listen on the radio and heard there's a lot of salmon holding up about 2.5 miles off the coast . Are you telling me you have not ask these questions of another fisherman or do you go out and start from scratch every time. So I guess what my point is is that if I want to know what the swell is or how windy is it going to be or when is high tide or  how low is low tide going to be, I should go to the cost and  see for myself do mathematical calculations and so on or I could just go on the internet and look. Truth is I don't feel like less of a fisherman because I don't figure this stuff out for myself because I just don't have that kind of time. Having a fish finder
is  really not that big of advantage. you still have to know how to fish. My guess is blueyak you have been fishing so long that you forget how much there really is to have to know to catch a fish. Tie good knots, get the right tackle, rig it correctly, set the drag right for hook set reset it for play, know when to wait on that nibble, how to put the bait on so the fish don;t shy away from it. how to put it on so it stays on, know when your probable fouled up so your not just sitting there wasting time. Damn man I could go on for hours like this but you get the point.

So am I less of a fisherman because I have a depth finder I guess so.   

P.S.  I fish with out one plenty of times and I do just fine thanks                  Gowen

It's a fun debate. I think it really gets to the core of what it means to fish with soul and style.

Does a fly-fisherman fish with a fly rod cause he can't afford a spinning rod?

Does a kayak fisherman fish from a kayak because he can't afford a boat?

The answer to both is no, at least in some cases, and even when the choice might mean less
fish caught.

So fishing from a kayak can involve a certain sense of style and aesthetics and it can be argued
that the use of electronics or non-human power detracts from that sense of style.

minimalism is stylish. human power is stylish. Use of no extra electronic devices is stylish and soulful.
non-primary-colored-plastic  kayaks like the pygmy kayaks are cool, stylish and soulful.

single action reels are cool. one of a kind items are cool, whether they be custom rods or tani tuned
reels or bill's custom swimbaits. lure-only fishing can be a statement of cool.

retro is almost always cool, unless it's neon 80's wetsuits!

savage has style. blue has style and soul. mooch has a certain style I have to say.  I was born without a
style gene, I am style challenged. But I know it when I see it!

So I read blue's comments as a lamentation that fish finders reduce or diminish the soul and style of fishing
from a kayak, but nothing more.

one thing I notice is that all boats these days have electronics, so if somebody comes from that background,
used to fishing on a boat and using electronics, they are gonna want electronics on their boat.
But if somebody was a diver or surfer and is not used to using
electronics, then moved over to kayak fishing to extend their lifetime on the water,
they might seem somewhat distasteful. So I think it's partially about past experience or maybe all about that.

Good point Jmairy, not a good day for some one to yank my chain. some times I'm a little to direct in what I say, I do know that Blueyak was just poking a little fun at me and that's OK, he strikes me as a tough sea dog so he can take a little poking back is my guess. truth is I can respect that he chooses to fish without having all the crap on board.

Yeah I'll bet those few guys that say they can just dial those baby's in are probable either trying to get some one to pay a little cashola or trying to impress a lot of people with the fact they can go out and find fish like nobodys business.

well you can talk the talk but can you walk and talk or something like that I forgot how that goes.

anyway who ever said those FF's are cheap?     I hope that know one takes what I say too seriously. what works well for one guy might not work for the other and therefore if I say this is the best way then it's kind of my opinion and we all know about opinions.

So there. It's official on record as of right now NOT to take what I say too seriously. I'd sign this damn thing but I cant figure out how to do that yet. Bluekayak you keep the bottom side of that yak facing down and the top side up and I hope your compass needle continues to point North.

P.S. as long as I'm going on record I should point out that my Handle is Gowen4bigfish NOT Catchingbigfish and if I'm not mistaken most of us are going for the bigger fish. well except of course blue he likes the 20 lbs. they taste better 

Gowen out.

Does anyone have an all-in-one gps/fishfinder?
If so what brand and what are the pros and cons?
Do you wish you had a different model or are you satisfied with what you have?
I am trying to downsize and streamline as much as I can and I think a dual purpose gadget would work out fine.

well Tote I have a humming bird and it is GPS ready which means of course you have to buy something else but that something else is a very small antenna. I have not used mine yet because it had a glitch in it right from the go. The guys at Humming bird talk to me for about one minute, no hassles, and said right away, yeah it's the unit, send it in and will have it back to you in a week and a half. So I allready know they have a no hassle warranty.

The thing that's really cool  is (and I allready know it's going to really piss Blueyak off) you can see the bottom in 3-D up too 200 ft after that it's 2- D to a thousand ft.

I like to do a lot of research before I spend any kind of real money on something and this probale is the best Depth/Fish finder there is for the money. Screen size, high def. resolution,GPS ready,water Prof, etc.      this model is black white gray scale, didn't need to spend a lot of extra cash on color ( that should impress Blueyak) any way check it out depth finder  $460. antenna $ 105.          oops! temperature rising again                  Hummingbird Matrix 47  kind of spendy but I don't plan on buying another one for a long time.

P.S. the glitch thing could have been my fault I drop it once while I was tyring to hooked it up.