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General => Fish Talk => Fish ID sub-forum => Topic started by: shoprat on July 06, 2014, 10:24:35 AM

Title: Help Id a rockfish
Post by: shoprat on July 06, 2014, 10:24:35 AM
So I'm pretty sure from the pictures I've found these are gophers, but wanted to make sure. I just want to know for next time so I can id as I catch. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/07/zevu4yty.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/07/u4a8u6u7.jpg)
Title: Re: Help Id a rockfish
Post by: crash on July 06, 2014, 10:42:36 AM
Gopher
Title: Re: Help Id a rockfish
Post by: Darius (Burong Isda) on July 06, 2014, 10:52:54 AM
Gopher
Rodent hahahahahaha
Title: Re: Help Id a rockfish
Post by: Great Bass 2 on July 06, 2014, 11:12:35 AM
The funny thing about gophers is that 8 years ago the reefs were swarming with small gophers and many considered them to be a nuisance. Maybe because of regs, the last 3 years, lings have taken over the reefs and gophers have been harder to find. Ironically, they are one of the better eating rockfish and my Vietnamese friends like the gopher and China rockfish over all other RCG species.
Title: Re: Help Id a rockfish
Post by: DG on July 06, 2014, 12:05:06 PM
I caught one recently and thought it was a brown because of the dark brown blotch behind his head.  But the larger copper blotches with dark band I believe are on the gopher.
Title: Re: Help Id a rockfish
Post by: Darius (Burong Isda) on July 06, 2014, 12:24:40 PM
The better eating rockfish and my Vietnamese friends like the gopher and China rockfish over all other RCG species.
TOTALLY AGREE, Not to mentioned I never seen any of them has parasite.
Title: Re: Help Id a rockfish
Post by: raydon on July 06, 2014, 01:40:24 PM
Gophers are perfect size for steaming and are one of the best tasting of the rockfish.  (shhhhhhhhhhhhh!)  It's a
secret. :smt003
Title: Re: Help Id a rockfish
Post by: Great Bass 2 on July 06, 2014, 01:50:54 PM
If you catch one this size or bigger. Steam it whole. :smt007
Title: Re: Help Id a rockfish
Post by: polepole on July 06, 2014, 01:56:32 PM
If you catch one this size or bigger. Steam it whole. :smt007

Except that one looks like a copper.   :smt002

-Allen
Title: Re: Help Id a rockfish
Post by: Great Bass 2 on July 06, 2014, 02:08:59 PM
If you catch one this size or bigger. Steam it whole. :smt007

Except that one looks like a copper.   :smt002

-Allen

Coppers are lighter orange and have prominent dorsal fins/spines. Definitely not a golden eye or canary. :smt005
Title: Re: Help Id a rockfish
Post by: polepole on July 06, 2014, 02:29:58 PM
If you catch one this size or bigger. Steam it whole. :smt007

Except that one looks like a copper.   :smt002

-Allen

Coppers are lighter orange and have prominent dorsal fins/spines. Definitely not a golden eye or canary. :smt005

(http://www.dfw.state.or.us/mrp/fishid/images/Sebastes_carnatus.jpg)

-Allen
Title: Re: Help Id a rockfish
Post by: polepole on July 06, 2014, 02:30:49 PM
(http://www.dfw.state.or.us/mrp/fishid/images/Sebastes_caurinus.jpg)

-Allen
Title: Re: Help Id a rockfish
Post by: shoprat on July 06, 2014, 03:01:38 PM
Thanks guys! Allen those pictures are great our ca regs pics suck!  I'm going to have to see if I can download some I those to study.
Title: Re: Help Id a rockfish
Post by: trianglelaguna on July 06, 2014, 03:11:33 PM
very good pica Allen...I get em confused a bit...
Title: Re: Help Id a rockfish
Post by: NowhereMan on July 06, 2014, 03:18:46 PM
The funny thing about gophers is that 8 years ago the reefs were swarming with small gophers and many considered them to be a nuisance. Maybe because of regs, the last 3 years, lings have taken over the reefs and gophers have been harder to find. Ironically, they are one of the better eating rockfish and my Vietnamese friends like the gopher and China rockfish over all other RCG species.

I didn't realize that. I've caught a lot of gophers this year and haven't kept any since I figured they were not as "prestigious" as the vermillions. I'll definitely keep some in the future.
Title: Re: Help Id a rockfish
Post by: shoprat on July 06, 2014, 03:25:12 PM
Just to share if another newbie such as myself comes across this thread Oregon fish and wildlife is a really good resource for actual pics of each rockfish. I don't think it's all the species but Probly the most common. Here is a link:
 http://www.dfw.state.or.us/MRP/FishID/FishIDLists.asp
Title: Re: Help Id a rockfish
Post by: Uminchu Naoaki on July 06, 2014, 10:08:17 PM

(http://www.dfw.state.or.us/mrp/fishid/images/Sebastes_caurinus.jpg)

-Allen
I agree.
Shoprat's fish is a gopher.
& Scott's fish looks like a copper.
Title: Re: Help Id a rockfish
Post by: LilRiverMan on July 06, 2014, 10:35:34 PM
Scott's is a Copper.
IMO Gophers are among the hardest to clean - scaling or filleting
Blacks IMO beat Verms and Gophers for taste. I get a bit of Iodine flavor in some Gophers. All that Kelp they and their prey hang out in.