Remember that the people proposing the new MPAs will need a project next year, and the year after that, etc. Their projects will not involve adding fishing opportunities. Only mother nature can do that. The quillbacks are fine, rockfish and lings are abundant, and there's no actual problem for these clowns to address, but they've become more aggressive about restricting fishing and crabbing anyway.

These people are either politically compromised, easily manipulated by pressure, or true believers raised on every nature show telling them the ocean is dying because of fisherman. If there are no "problems" for them to address, they'll make things up and that's exactly what the new MPAs are. It's just the latest made-up cause. They want to reduce fishing opportunities gradually while saying that's not what they are doing. If limits are cut, that's not coming back. If MPAs are established, the fishing opportunities aren't coming back.

Quote from: polepole on February 15, 2024, 02:05:51 PM

Quote from: The Gopher on February 15, 2024, 01:32:31 PM

Quote from: Sin Coast on February 15, 2024, 01:19:31 PM

Did you guys just start fishing last year? Because that’s what it sounds like—please have some perspective. I’ve only been paying attention to RCG regs since ~1999. And guess what: the regs for seasons/depth/posession limits change every few years. That’s how the adaptive management system works. Would you prefer the alternative? A system that does not adapt to the constantly-changing population of various species.
So the question about returning to seasons without depth restrictions is stupid. Unless you have a time machine and you’re talking about the 1990s. Because that’s the last time we have unabated access to rockfish at all depths.
But thanks for lobbying for more bureaucratic restrictions and giving the commission additional fodder…the companies that produce fish decenders owe you guys a bunch of money.

"So the question about returning to seasons without depth restrictions is stupid." Thanks for that helpful addition to the discussion. Perhaps I should have been more specific about the quillback-related depth restrictions, and I also remember the deeper water being closed for many years. There's a well-worn history of bureaucracies taking power for real or imagined "problems" and then never giving that power back, but go ahead and dismiss concerns over that sort of thing as "stupid" if it makes you feel good. In fact, insulting people with different views, like you did here, is totally awesome, especially for the "global moderator" of an open forum. If feeling superior to others is what you need, i'm glad to help give you the opportunity.

Whether or not Sin Coast has an opinion on this as a global moderator is immaterial.  I don't see any personal attacks or insults from him, he's entitled to think that a line of questioning is stupid.  That doesn't mean he called anyone stupid.

Never giving back?  Some of us were prepared to never see a deep water season again.  Heck, the deep water fisheries weren't supposed to recover enough to allow a deep water fishery until like 2030.  So in fact, they did give back by opening it.

-Allen

He's totally insulting people with different views, regardless of you attempting to gaslight about it. And I can point it out. And he can take it. Claiming it isn't happening is different though. And I even clarified what i meant about the depth restrictions, yet you think you're dunking on me by mentioning the deep water. Have a great day, friends, and I hope we can go fishing soon.

Quote from: polepole on February 03, 2024, 03:13:47 PM

The site is NorCal Kayak Anglers, or NCKA.  We are based in Northern California.  This site URL is norcalkayakanglers.com, not northerncaliforniakayakanglers.com.

Please don’t refer to it as Northern California Kayak Anglers when interacting with other organizations.  If we’re confused, imagine how confused they are.  You are only diluting the “brand”.

-Allen

In the past. People asked me what "NorCal" stands for and I replied "Northern California".  So now if someone asks ne, you suggest we tell them it stands for nothing, just NorCal?