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Hookups and Fishing Reports (Viewable by Public) / Re: Busted for shore fishing at Bonita Point 8/7/09
« on: August 12, 2009, 07:12:47 PM »
Police CANNOT act as if citizens they confront are about to kill them.
Just......CANNOT......act.....that way.
The reality is opposite.
And within the domain of Park Enforcement....???...!!!....even less so.
CANNOT...drive up like madmen
CANNOT...put hands anywhere near a sidearm
SRJ cites a prior GGNRA murder case---girl's body in trunk---It is irrelevant.
Less than 1:1000 Golden Gate National Recreation Area cases involve serious...anything. In fact, as contrasted with "the content of all citzen contacts"....less than 1:10,000.
Officers CANNOT go around, touching their gunbelts, cannot act roughly, when dealing with just-citizens.
CANNOT---CANNOT---CANNOT---CANNOT...the most fundamental part of professionalism is courtesy.
Yes police get shot-in-the-line-of-duty.
So do convenience store clerks.
While (particularly Metropolitan) police work is a dangerous occupation, police work DOES NOT FALL within the list of the ten most dangerous jobs.
They are:
Timber Cutters 117.8 fatalies per 100,000
Fishers 71.1
Pilots and navigators 69.8
Structural metal workers 58.2
Drivers-sales workers 37.9
Roofers 37
Electrical power installers 32.5
Farm occupations 28
Construction laborers 27.7
Truck drivers 25
POLICE: 21.8
Police training, equipment and proceedure are principal reasons that police work does not generate more injuries/fatalities.
But badge-heavy over-the-top conduct is expressly forbidden in all police academys and departments.
The bottom line is....officers cannot deal roughly with contacts on any PRETEXT of personal danger.
Another somewhat paradoxical but entirely understandable fact is that the very "danger-of-the-job" is in fact one of the primary frequently cited ATTRACTIONS of police work as an occupation. Police work is not boreing.
What's that fabulous line that Marshall Matt Dillon intoned at the introduction of every GUNSMOKE show? He said: "It's a chancy job, and it makes a man watchful . . . and a little lonely..." AND THAT'S ABOUT AS PERFECT A DESCRIPTION AS CAN BE MADE....except in the case of modern police, they cannot let---JUST CANNOT LET---the "chancy" nature of the job cause them to turn to cowardice and adopt badge-heavy brutal behavior(s).
PAY ATTENTION DAMMIT:
It's irrational to go into police work because it is exciting and then behave like a badge-heavy tyrant on the pretext that the job is dangerous.
Law enforcement CANNOT afford to become "an-enemy-of-the-people."
Law enforcement CANNOT afford to behave in crazy ways that are out-of-proportion with risk-realities.
Every Logical Mandate....requires police to make all their behavior(s) proportionate.
The crime of ASSAULT....is putting someone in fear.
Absent a real-viable-criminal-charge, police have no right to put a citizen in fear.
Police have no right to put a citizen in fear for "violations cases."
Police had no right make ITSONICE to sit on the ground....demeaning him...
The treatment of ITSONICE ....was absolutely l a c e d with badge-heavy menacing frightening unnecessary demeaning conduct.
The CORRECT Police Procedure in ITSONICE's case was this:
Officer stops his approach to ITSONICE at 8-feet:
"Sir!
"Please put down your tackle box and your rod.
"Get out your identification.
"I am going to cite you for entering a closed area."
No gunbelt touching....no badge-heavy "drive-up"....NOT approaching ITSONICE in a jack-booted way....NOT prefacing contact with
ITSONICE with the arrogant and simultaneous stupidly-useless "We've Been Watching You..!!.."
Subsequent civil conversation-----could then negotiate its way to relelase-with-warning....or...not.
====================================================
I am no police hater --- but I did work for seven years as "A Police-Officer-of-Police-Officers."
I worked 7-years as THE OREGONIAN'S (Portland,OR) police reporter while obtaining an engineering degree. My/The Paper's office was in the (old) police building at 209 SW Oak....I covered police and courts.
In my tenure I was personally responsible for the termination of three municipal court judges, JJ Labadie for delilitating old age; Edmund Jordan for cruelty to misdemeanant vagrants in his morning dock; Arron Brown for persistantly mis-applying the Law. I was responsible for disbarment of a dep. city attorney for prejudicial handling of a tavern-keepers license.
My reports caused four police officers to be fired, all separate incidents. One officer---for deliberately turning on the lawn sprinklers of the Portland Fire Bureau
because he wanted to enjoy the sight of thirty three old-down-and-out-drunks who were catching a few rays of sunshine on that lawn....jump out of their sleep and run to the perimiter sidewalk.
I do see things----as a police officer sees them.
My function then and my habit now...is to see Police Officers...AS a police officer ,looking at correct and incorrect police function.
A police officer, Doyle Souders, taught me something: That you can take a "subject"...any "subject"...you can address him and treat that
subject in just such a way that even if he is a Casper Milquetoast personality, you can excite such anger (by your behavior) and such outrage
and such personal hatred (for you-yourself) that-----you can almosst guarantee----that this subject will "offer conduct" to you which you can
define as Assault-Of-A-Police-Officer....thus giving you CAUSE to take him down for a felony.
Doyle Souders taught me....that you can treat a man one way and he will ASSENT to his arrest.
Doyle Souders taught me....that you can treat an arrestee another way and he'll offer conduct that lets you kill him.
So TELL ME.....yeah....you just try to tell me...about Badge Heavy.
I know "Badge Heavy."
There is pin-headed Badge Heavy
There is race-hatred Badge Heavy
There is "cowardice" Badge Heavy---you see it in female officers who are frightened of their shadow.
There is the Badge Heavy sadist who gets that certain lift from having that badge and that power and that gun.
Takes all kinds to make a world.
==============================================
A final word(s) ((Judd Smith NEVER writes o n e word)) ---this: about police training films.
Police training films breed police fear.
Police fear breeds police misconduct.
And the thing is......it's irrational.
Here's the deal:
Training films are a very profitable business.
OK you are going to produce a police training film.
For One Thing: It's gotta be scarier...than the last film the cops saw.
You draw up your "scene"...it has cars, darkness, loose clothing, and always: Starting with an innocuous "stop."
You count your "roles" and you hire your actors-----for actors you hire gymnasts and ballet-dancers
You set up the props and run your actors through the action against a stopwatch. That "TIME" is the benchmark.
Now you run the same action again and again always for "time."
You scream at your people...you organize re-prize runs...the aim is always to shorten the "time."
Your actors...organize and optimize...every motion. Every motion.
Weapons are organized-into-clothing....it's optimize...optimize...optimize...and shorten that "time."
Finally you have a choreography....that's lightening fast and scary to watch.......
But it's been optimized to the point that it no longer depicts any real-scene reality.
What happens is terrifying....the cops get all shot up....the whole thing....screaming speed...
The training academys buy it....departments buy it.....police see it....god it goes down like lightening.
An officer who sees that film --- and who does not intuit that "something is wrong...shit...this happens just all to fast and all too perfectly" ---- The officer who leaves the viewing room thinking that: "This is reality
and good God...I don't see how a guy can defend against stuff likethat." --- That officer is going to be a frightened officer.
Now a Frightened Officer is going to talk excitedly about how dangerous police work is.
A Frightened Officer is going to tell you about how a guy who uses a prohibited beach can be carrying an air-cooled .30
An officer whose seen too many Training Films will readily adopt irrational views of crime-in-America and the DANGER of even being a Park Policeman.
A officer-made-coward...well...here's somethingto chew on:
Most fundamental rule about FEAR:
FEAR is the mother of HATE
If I fear you, the sum of my fear translates to hate.
Now if an OFFICER is AFRAID of citizens.....???.....
Well the sum-total of his behavior toward them is going to feel very much like hatred.
And then next in line:
Fear feeds Fear
Hatred feeds more fear and ... your "subject" can read it off your body language...like it was written in orange flourescent.
So: Evaluating the conduct of those officers who approached OHSONICE... There's no question these men are not suited to their work.
Evaluating SRJ's knee-jerk defense of those men ..... an endorsement ... of men who are not suited to their work.
As a former Police-officer-of-police ..... and I still have the brittle eyes and sharp insights .... well.....
Judd Smith
1589 Campus Drive
Berkeley, CA 94708
js1589@berkeley.edu
By the way----I never have been perfectly comfortable with people who sign themselves with "handles"....and I never did visit
the New Orleans "Marti Gras" because I don't feel perfectly comfortable with people who wear masks.
It's just me, I guess.
p
Just......CANNOT......act.....that way.
The reality is opposite.
And within the domain of Park Enforcement....???...!!!....even less so.
CANNOT...drive up like madmen
CANNOT...put hands anywhere near a sidearm
SRJ cites a prior GGNRA murder case---girl's body in trunk---It is irrelevant.
Less than 1:1000 Golden Gate National Recreation Area cases involve serious...anything. In fact, as contrasted with "the content of all citzen contacts"....less than 1:10,000.
Officers CANNOT go around, touching their gunbelts, cannot act roughly, when dealing with just-citizens.
CANNOT---CANNOT---CANNOT---CANNOT...the most fundamental part of professionalism is courtesy.
Yes police get shot-in-the-line-of-duty.
So do convenience store clerks.
While (particularly Metropolitan) police work is a dangerous occupation, police work DOES NOT FALL within the list of the ten most dangerous jobs.
They are:
Timber Cutters 117.8 fatalies per 100,000
Fishers 71.1
Pilots and navigators 69.8
Structural metal workers 58.2
Drivers-sales workers 37.9
Roofers 37
Electrical power installers 32.5
Farm occupations 28
Construction laborers 27.7
Truck drivers 25
POLICE: 21.8
Police training, equipment and proceedure are principal reasons that police work does not generate more injuries/fatalities.
But badge-heavy over-the-top conduct is expressly forbidden in all police academys and departments.
The bottom line is....officers cannot deal roughly with contacts on any PRETEXT of personal danger.
Another somewhat paradoxical but entirely understandable fact is that the very "danger-of-the-job" is in fact one of the primary frequently cited ATTRACTIONS of police work as an occupation. Police work is not boreing.
What's that fabulous line that Marshall Matt Dillon intoned at the introduction of every GUNSMOKE show? He said: "It's a chancy job, and it makes a man watchful . . . and a little lonely..." AND THAT'S ABOUT AS PERFECT A DESCRIPTION AS CAN BE MADE....except in the case of modern police, they cannot let---JUST CANNOT LET---the "chancy" nature of the job cause them to turn to cowardice and adopt badge-heavy brutal behavior(s).
PAY ATTENTION DAMMIT:
It's irrational to go into police work because it is exciting and then behave like a badge-heavy tyrant on the pretext that the job is dangerous.
Law enforcement CANNOT afford to become "an-enemy-of-the-people."
Law enforcement CANNOT afford to behave in crazy ways that are out-of-proportion with risk-realities.
Every Logical Mandate....requires police to make all their behavior(s) proportionate.
The crime of ASSAULT....is putting someone in fear.
Absent a real-viable-criminal-charge, police have no right to put a citizen in fear.
Police have no right to put a citizen in fear for "violations cases."
Police had no right make ITSONICE to sit on the ground....demeaning him...
The treatment of ITSONICE ....was absolutely l a c e d with badge-heavy menacing frightening unnecessary demeaning conduct.
The CORRECT Police Procedure in ITSONICE's case was this:
Officer stops his approach to ITSONICE at 8-feet:
"Sir!
"Please put down your tackle box and your rod.
"Get out your identification.
"I am going to cite you for entering a closed area."
No gunbelt touching....no badge-heavy "drive-up"....NOT approaching ITSONICE in a jack-booted way....NOT prefacing contact with
ITSONICE with the arrogant and simultaneous stupidly-useless "We've Been Watching You..!!.."
Subsequent civil conversation-----could then negotiate its way to relelase-with-warning....or...not.
====================================================
I am no police hater --- but I did work for seven years as "A Police-Officer-of-Police-Officers."
I worked 7-years as THE OREGONIAN'S (Portland,OR) police reporter while obtaining an engineering degree. My/The Paper's office was in the (old) police building at 209 SW Oak....I covered police and courts.
In my tenure I was personally responsible for the termination of three municipal court judges, JJ Labadie for delilitating old age; Edmund Jordan for cruelty to misdemeanant vagrants in his morning dock; Arron Brown for persistantly mis-applying the Law. I was responsible for disbarment of a dep. city attorney for prejudicial handling of a tavern-keepers license.
My reports caused four police officers to be fired, all separate incidents. One officer---for deliberately turning on the lawn sprinklers of the Portland Fire Bureau
because he wanted to enjoy the sight of thirty three old-down-and-out-drunks who were catching a few rays of sunshine on that lawn....jump out of their sleep and run to the perimiter sidewalk.
I do see things----as a police officer sees them.
My function then and my habit now...is to see Police Officers...AS a police officer ,looking at correct and incorrect police function.
A police officer, Doyle Souders, taught me something: That you can take a "subject"...any "subject"...you can address him and treat that
subject in just such a way that even if he is a Casper Milquetoast personality, you can excite such anger (by your behavior) and such outrage
and such personal hatred (for you-yourself) that-----you can almosst guarantee----that this subject will "offer conduct" to you which you can
define as Assault-Of-A-Police-Officer....thus giving you CAUSE to take him down for a felony.
Doyle Souders taught me....that you can treat a man one way and he will ASSENT to his arrest.
Doyle Souders taught me....that you can treat an arrestee another way and he'll offer conduct that lets you kill him.
So TELL ME.....yeah....you just try to tell me...about Badge Heavy.
I know "Badge Heavy."
There is pin-headed Badge Heavy
There is race-hatred Badge Heavy
There is "cowardice" Badge Heavy---you see it in female officers who are frightened of their shadow.
There is the Badge Heavy sadist who gets that certain lift from having that badge and that power and that gun.
Takes all kinds to make a world.
==============================================
A final word(s) ((Judd Smith NEVER writes o n e word)) ---this: about police training films.
Police training films breed police fear.
Police fear breeds police misconduct.
And the thing is......it's irrational.
Here's the deal:
Training films are a very profitable business.
OK you are going to produce a police training film.
For One Thing: It's gotta be scarier...than the last film the cops saw.
You draw up your "scene"...it has cars, darkness, loose clothing, and always: Starting with an innocuous "stop."
You count your "roles" and you hire your actors-----for actors you hire gymnasts and ballet-dancers
You set up the props and run your actors through the action against a stopwatch. That "TIME" is the benchmark.
Now you run the same action again and again always for "time."
You scream at your people...you organize re-prize runs...the aim is always to shorten the "time."
Your actors...organize and optimize...every motion. Every motion.
Weapons are organized-into-clothing....it's optimize...optimize...optimize...and shorten that "time."
Finally you have a choreography....that's lightening fast and scary to watch.......
But it's been optimized to the point that it no longer depicts any real-scene reality.
What happens is terrifying....the cops get all shot up....the whole thing....screaming speed...
The training academys buy it....departments buy it.....police see it....god it goes down like lightening.
An officer who sees that film --- and who does not intuit that "something is wrong...shit...this happens just all to fast and all too perfectly" ---- The officer who leaves the viewing room thinking that: "This is reality
and good God...I don't see how a guy can defend against stuff likethat." --- That officer is going to be a frightened officer.
Now a Frightened Officer is going to talk excitedly about how dangerous police work is.
A Frightened Officer is going to tell you about how a guy who uses a prohibited beach can be carrying an air-cooled .30
An officer whose seen too many Training Films will readily adopt irrational views of crime-in-America and the DANGER of even being a Park Policeman.
A officer-made-coward...well...here's somethingto chew on:
Most fundamental rule about FEAR:
FEAR is the mother of HATE
If I fear you, the sum of my fear translates to hate.
Now if an OFFICER is AFRAID of citizens.....???.....
Well the sum-total of his behavior toward them is going to feel very much like hatred.
And then next in line:
Fear feeds Fear
Hatred feeds more fear and ... your "subject" can read it off your body language...like it was written in orange flourescent.
So: Evaluating the conduct of those officers who approached OHSONICE... There's no question these men are not suited to their work.
Evaluating SRJ's knee-jerk defense of those men ..... an endorsement ... of men who are not suited to their work.
As a former Police-officer-of-police ..... and I still have the brittle eyes and sharp insights .... well.....
Judd Smith
1589 Campus Drive
Berkeley, CA 94708
js1589@berkeley.edu
By the way----I never have been perfectly comfortable with people who sign themselves with "handles"....and I never did visit
the New Orleans "Marti Gras" because I don't feel perfectly comfortable with people who wear masks.
It's just me, I guess.
p