NorCal Kayak Anglers
Kayak Fishing Zone => Kayak Fly Fishing => Topic started by: ZeeHokkaido on August 27, 2007, 03:58:31 PM
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Do most of you who flyfish from the yak use stripping baskets? So far I haven't really seen the need for it but then again my experience is very little.
I found this http://www.lyndenhuggins.com/Fly%20Fishing/Stripping%20Basket/How%20To%20Make%20a%20Stripping%20Basket.htm (http://www.lyndenhuggins.com/Fly%20Fishing/Stripping%20Basket/How%20To%20Make%20a%20Stripping%20Basket.htm)
on the web and was wondering if you guys think it would do the job? And if it was even worth it in the first place.
Z
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Zeelander its only my openion but it looks like that basket would just get in the way. maybe if you where standing in a boat it would do the trick. like I said just my openion.
Pat R
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After chuckin' bugz on the yak for the first time tonight I think I agree with you. The hardest thing was to keep line where it should be and the bucket would just be too big. Thanks for the opinion.
Z
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Z,
The main purpose of a stripping basket is to hold your running line behind a shooting head. Whether this is part of the fly line (one piece) or a flat/oval/braided mono attached to a shooting head, that's it. I have never needed a stripping basket out of a kayak because I can't muscle a cast much beyond 50' while sitting. If you can, more power to you. I use standard fly lines out of the yak and a shooting head system for distance whether it be salmon/steelhead or surf.
Also, the best stripping basket I ever used and still have (and I used the rubbermaid with mono fingers and one with the cones in the bottom, and the Orvis foldable) is a grocery basket you get from Safeway or other grocery chain. They drain well, don't catch waves (tends to take your stripping basket down to your knees), takes a bungee well for around your waist, and has handles to carry your stuff and store it in your car.
Hope it helps!
rob
jrsyboy
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Thanks for the info jrsyboy. I don't think I could manage a cast further than that yet either. So far , I've been able to sit side saddle and strip a good amount of line into the footwell of the yak. It's worked semi tangle free but I think that's just my inexperience causing the problems... :smt012 I'll be trying out a sinking line setup in BC (Moutcha Bay) so we'll see how I can handle larger fish using this technique. :smt004
Z
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Z - Here's a sketch of the "Loop Pad" I use. It's a piece of foam sleeping pad with weed eater line loops glued in. It fits between your legs ( which form the "basket" ), and does a good job of keeping the line from tangling. Tom
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Z,
In my SOT (or on it technically), I use big coils laid out in front of me. If you ever watched a two-hander cast European Style (shooting head overhand, not Spey) or an old timer up on the Eel for steelhead w/ a shooting head, they make big coils (like 5' long) and hang them separately, one on each finger of the stripping hand/lower hand of a two-hander. When they cast, they open their fingers and the line shoots off the hand. Pretty slick and very hard to do.
In the yak, I make big loops of line in front of me or I make long loops to my left (I'm right-handed) into the yak. A 5' long loop has 10' of line, so 3 of these has 30'feet, there's 10'+/- in the rod and 30' in the air. That's 70' and as I said, I can muscle 50' most of the time, 60-65' on a good Wheaties morning. Try making your pile of stripped line into longer loops and the tangles will come way down.
rob
jrsyboy
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Be sure to stretch and lube your running line before you use it. I like Russ Peak's Line Dressing distributed by Umpqua (keep the dressing off the shooting head). I don't have a lot of experience casting from the deck of my kayak, but I found it a welcome platform compared to the one loop in my mouth and three in my hand. Keep a clear deck and large loops. For extra distance release your line at a higher trajectory. If you're still having problems, I would suggest fabricating some kind of stripping apron as opposed to a basket.
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Z - Here's a sketch of the "Loop Pad" I use. It's a piece of foam sleeping pad with weed eater line loops glued in. It fits between your legs ( which form the "basket" ), and does a good job of keeping the line from tangling. Tom
Cool idea Pelican! That looks like a great solution. Thanks for everyone's input. It seems that practice at line management is the way to making this less of a headache. Then again it's been not much a problem so a whole lot more fun to come. Loving it!!
Z