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General => Fish Talk => Topic started by: mickfish on September 27, 2020, 03:53:09 PM

Title: Changes coming to crab regs
Post by: mickfish on September 27, 2020, 03:53:09 PM
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  On the Dungeness crab front, new rules are coming. You can get a sneak preview here. The proposed adoption date is December 9, 2020, so I think that means they will go into effect at the beginning of next year. A short summary is that you will need an additional Recreational Crab Trap Validation on your license ($2.25) and an additional "marker buoy" (3" x 5" red buoy) trailing the main buoy by no more than three feet to indicate that it's a trap (a picture of Admiral Ackbar is optional). You can't run more than ten of your traps but you can run an additional ten of somebody else's gear with their written permission. You have to run your gear "at intervals not to exceed nine days".  And if there's too many whales or turtles around the season could be delayed or closed entirely. I may switch to ring nets.   

https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=183156&inline
Title: Re: Changes coming to crab regs
Post by: tehpenguins on September 27, 2020, 07:16:10 PM
and don't forget the official *come get me poachers* buoy.

And I was going buy a couple of floating seagul decoys this year...
Title: Re: Changes coming to crab regs
Post by: Eddie on September 27, 2020, 10:47:18 PM
and don't forget the official *come get me poachers* buoy.

And I was going buy a couple of floating seagul decoys this year...
I still think bloody doll heads from cosmetology school would deter a few... :smt006
Title: Re: Changes coming to crab regs
Post by: tehpenguins on September 27, 2020, 10:56:02 PM
and don't forget the official *come get me poachers* buoy.

And I was going buy a couple of floating seagul decoys this year...
I still think bloody doll heads from cosmetology school would deter a few... :smt006

I'm liking this, I'm liking this.
Title: Re: Changes coming to crab regs
Post by: Eddie on September 27, 2020, 11:31:18 PM
and don't forget the official *come get me poachers* buoy.

And I was going buy a couple of floating seagul decoys this year...
I still think bloody doll heads from cosmetology school would deter a few... :smt006
I'm liking this, I'm liking this.
Iíve always wanted to put one in my pot to make the sobís jump and know that death and/or justice is always near... :smt006
Title: Re: Changes coming to crab regs
Post by: Eddie on September 27, 2020, 11:40:16 PM
Back in the day I had a Halloween party and decorated a mess of these with blood and bodies and hung emí in freaky ass places in our long lonely driveway.  Cops even came and I couldnít tell if they were creeped out as well...that methíll mess up everyoneís reality...Iím all better now... :smt006
Title: Re: Changes coming to crab regs
Post by: ark on September 27, 2020, 11:56:26 PM
I had a friend who would mark his buoys with 'SFPD' after getting poached way too often. He never had a problem after that. Not sure the legality of it however.
Title: Re: Changes coming to crab regs
Post by: Tamalpias on December 17, 2020, 09:29:03 PM
Every year they dream up of new regulations to deter the anglers.
Title: Re: Changes coming to crab regs
Post by: masterandahound on December 18, 2020, 08:44:55 AM
Every year they dream up of new regulations to deter the anglers.
Perfectly said.
Title: Re: Changes coming to crab regs
Post by: olseng2002 on December 18, 2020, 02:07:42 PM
agree
Title: Re: Changes coming to crab regs
Post by: Tim in Albion on December 19, 2020, 08:02:47 AM
Every year they dream up of new regulations to deter the anglers.

And yet... every year there are more anglers.
Elsewhere on this forum, people complaining about spot burn, crowded launch sites, and too many pots in the water.
Title: Re: Changes coming to crab regs
Post by: crash on December 19, 2020, 08:11:18 AM
In defense of CDFW:

Sport anglers are only one constituency. There are many others, and they are often at cross purposes. Would I run things differently?  Hell yes. Are new regs designed to reduce marine mammal entanglements a hill to die on?  Hell no.

Dead whales and seals wrapped in fishing gear provide a powerful image and is exactly the kind of thing that could lead to a ballot initiative that takes the management decision away from CDFW all together. Just like the prohibition on hunting bear with dogs or the protection of mountain lions.
Title: Re: Changes coming to crab regs
Post by: Gollywomper on January 09, 2021, 12:22:22 PM
Anyone know when these new reg will take effect? Iím rigging some traps and will add the small bouys but cannot find info on the liscense stamp. Thanks.
Title: Re: Changes coming to crab regs
Post by: jimmwaller on February 27, 2021, 04:50:14 PM
As far as I can tell, it's just proposed regulations so far, so I don't think anything has gone into effect (and may never go into effect).  Did a search and didn't come up with anything beyond the proposed rulemaking docs that have already been circulated, so I doubt anything has happened at this point?
Title: Re: Changes coming to crab regs
Post by: exhibita on March 04, 2021, 08:18:41 AM
Here is a link to the proposed changes:
https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=183154&inline

The 2021-2022 OSFR has this statement on page 3 under "What's new for 2021"

Crab Regulation Changes (anticipated to take effect during the 2021-2022 season)
On December 9, 2020, the Fish and Game Commission adopted new regulations related to the take of recreational crab in California waters. They include new gear marking requirements, gear servicing, trap limits, license validation, and season modifications to minimize entanglement risk. Amendments to sections 29.80, 29.85, and 701 are anticipated to take effect on November 1, 2021. Please check the Fish and Game Commission website (https://fgc.ca.gov/Regulations/2020- New-and-Proposed#29_80) for more information and to view final regulatory text.
Title: Re: Changes coming to crab regs
Post by: Eddie on March 04, 2021, 08:52:19 AM
What a zoo.  I do not even know where to start reading.  My hope is working traps and hoops that are up to 80fow with rope are eligible.  I do not soak overnight.  I'm sure others have different depth needs.  I'm just talking recreational.
Title: Re: Changes coming to crab regs
Post by: crash on March 04, 2021, 09:44:01 AM
What a zoo.  I do not even know where to start reading.  My hope is working traps and hoops that are up to 80fow with rope are eligible.  I do not soak overnight.  I'm sure others have different depth needs.  I'm just talking recreational.

Here's what will change:

1.  You need a crab stamp.  Cost is $2.25 per crabber.  You do not need one if you use hoop nets, just traps.  All these changes only affect traps and not hoop nets.
2.  You need to buy a red marker buoy for each trap.
3.  You need to check the trap, clean, and empty it at least every 9 days, sea conditions permitting.
4.  Maximum 10 traps (not a problem for kayakers).
5.  You can check up to 10 traps that belong to someone else if you have written permission including GOID number.
6.  DFG director can delay or close the crab season at any time if there's too many whales or turtles in the water.

That's it.
Title: Re: Changes coming to crab regs
Post by: Eddie on March 04, 2021, 10:41:26 AM
What a zoo.  I do not even know where to start reading.  My hope is working traps and hoops that are up to 80fow with rope are eligible.  I do not soak overnight.  I'm sure others have different depth needs.  I'm just talking recreational.

Here's what will change:

1.  You need a crab stamp.  Cost is $2.25 per crabber.  You do not need one if you use hoop nets, just traps.  All these changes only affect traps and not hoop nets.
2.  You need to buy a red marker buoy for each trap.
3.  You need to check the trap, clean, and empty it at least every 9 days, sea conditions permitting.
4.  Maximum 10 traps (not a problem for kayakers).
5.  You can check up to 10 traps that belong to someone else if you have written permission including GOID number.
6.  DFG director can delay or close the crab season at any time if there's too many whales or turtles in the water.

That's it.
Boom!  Thanks for dat pro bono analysis!  TastyKakes for everyone with some kickass fresh crab dip on the side! :smt006
Title: Re: Changes coming to crab regs
Post by: Tim in Albion on March 20, 2021, 08:20:59 PM
I didn't realize we could fish for and take Rock Crabs all year. Not sure I'd bring the gear just to target them though.

It does slightly annoy me that I'd have to buy a standard marker buoy. If I upgrade to traps that is.