NorCal Kayak Anglers
General => General Talk => Topic started by: oldfart on March 16, 2019, 06:28:20 PM
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Winter is mostly gone and there has yet to be a good 25+ page post with members getting irate, making inappropriate comments, and calling each other names. What's happend to this site?
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Winter is mostly gone and there has yet to be a good 25+ page post with members getting irate, making inappropriate comments, and calling each other names. What's happend to this site?
We can start now with this post if you like... :smt005 :smt006
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Winter is mostly gone and there has yet to be a good 25+ page post with members getting irate, making inappropriate comments, and calling each other names. What's happend to this site?
We can start now with this post if you like... :smt005 :smt006
I started thinking that maybe FM1 and CDM have maybe matured and didn't engage in that sort of stuff anymore....but come on, who would believe that?
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Winter is mostly gone and there has yet to be a good 25+ page post with members getting irate, making inappropriate comments, and calling each other names. What's happend to this site?
We can start now with this post if you like... :smt005 :smt006
I started thinking that maybe FM1 and CDM have maybe matured and didn't engage in that sort of stuff anymore....but come on, who would believe that?
You would have to do some searching, but I am sure you could find some serious snark and poking offenses embedded in the posts of winter soon to be past...I remember a few moments of uh oh, how's this person gonna handle this? Seems to work out but who knows, maybe some verbal throw downs are in store for the future...
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I was thinking about starting a topic on electric kayaks. Would that help? :smt006
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https://youtu.be/N_GjFMzVT7c
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Winter is mostly gone and there has yet to be a good 25+ page post with members getting irate, making inappropriate comments, and calling each other names. What's happend to this site?
Hey old fuck!!! Fuck you and your disappointment!!!
Hows that? :smt003 :smt003 :smt003
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Winter is mostly gone and there has yet to be a good 25+ page post with members getting irate, making inappropriate comments, and calling each other names. What's happend to this site?
This guy . :smt075 :knob: :smt056 :beer3
Let there be light at Albion !!!!
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Winter is mostly gone and there has yet to be a good 25+ page post with members getting irate, making inappropriate comments, and calling each other names. What's happend to this site?
Hey old fuck!!! Fuck you and your disappointment!!!
Hows that? :smt003 :smt003 :smt003
Nice try, but I think that’s a little too subtle for NCKA...
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Winter is mostly gone and there has yet to be a good 25+ page post with members getting irate, making inappropriate comments, and calling each other names. What's happend to this site?
Hey old fuck!!! Fuck you and your disappointment!!!
Hows that? :smt003 :smt003 :smt003
Nice try, but I think that’s a little too subtle for NCKA...
I dunno, I think Jack's making a genuine effort
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maybe I should repost my old feelfree kayak again. that seam to bring them all out. they were all pissed that I wasn't giving it away....
BTY I sold it for more than what I was asking hahaha
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Ha, you just have to be on the site more... Our Mods have caught, scrubbed and warned... Banned, y'all just missed it.... :smt044 GO Trump Trump Trump! that might bring the horns out! Craig, where you at! :smt007 :smt005 I think we all might be growing up a bit!? :smt011 Nope it's all because of Ocasio cortez . she's like a train wreck you cant' stop looking at... :smt005 Trigger anyone yet? See ya's at Berryessa :smt006
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Most of it’s moved over to FB , and after the last presidential election it seems there has been less of it too.
Let’s face it , as much as there is camaraderie on the site it tends to get clique , so those that do , have similar thoughts and beliefs are chillin and texting and FBing,instagramming amongst themselves .
The use of FB and people really posting about topics other than fishing have produced what seems like a lot of people that used to get along here on this site to just plain not like each other.
Most of the OG’s hardly post anymore for whatever reason , a couple that I talk to say that NCKA has gotten too big and watered down and it’s not the same for them.
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Most of it’s moved over to FB , and after the last presidential election it seems there has been less of it too.
Let’s face it , as much as there is camaraderie on the site it tends to get clique , so those that do , have similar thoughts and beliefs are chillin and texting and FBing,instagramming amongst themselves .
The use of FB and people really posting about topics other than fishing have produced what seems like a lot of people that used to get along here on this site to just plain not like each other.
Most of the OG’s hardly post anymore for whatever reason , a couple that I talk to say that NCKA has gotten too big and watered down and it’s not the same for them.
That's a mouthful, pretty good description, Yes the World is changing,
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Most of it’s moved over to FB ...
FB sucks... So yesterday...
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Well, I just gotta assume anything I say or post is offensive to someone and sometimes to everyone. But then I'm getting old or am old, depending on who is making the determination and I just do not give a shit any more who I piss off with my words. No one seems to give a shit that they piss me off in the first place.
So I'll just lead off with the most recent crap I've heard about that has me pissed off; All these protesting kids who actually believe that global warming is going to end the world as we know it within the next 20 years. What a mind wash these kids are subjected to.
And just in case I'm NOT making myself clear; Global warming is a hoax. And man-made global warming is a double hoax. Lies based on greed. A scam that transcends all other scams in the history of scams combined. A lie with no bounds to the point the liars do not care how much they are harming the next generations with their lies. Science today on global warming has about as much fact and science behind it as science once held that the universe revolved around the earth. Science constantly proves itself to be wrong, is constantly updating, correcting and recorrecting. Hell, they can't even predict the weather out past 5 days without a 50/50 chance of getting it wrong and you're going to tell me they can pronounce we are the cause of global warming?!!
And don't go jumping down MY throat, this is all on OldFart! Speaking of which, corned beef and cabbage today will result in a lot of global warming from me later on. Ha!
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Winter is mostly gone and there has yet to be a good 25+ page post with members getting irate, making inappropriate comments, and calling each other names. What's happend to this site?
We can start now with this post if you like... :smt005 :smt006
I started thinking that maybe FM1 and CDM have maybe matured and didn't engage in that sort of stuff anymore....but come on, who would believe that?
Hijo de la chingada madre pinche pedo viejo joto!!!!!
Feel better now asshole! :smt097 :smt003 :smt005
You know you like it when I talk dirty to you ...you perverted fuck :smt008
Ahhhh! The world is better now....
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Winter is mostly gone and there has yet to be a good 25+ page post with members getting irate, making inappropriate comments, and calling each other names. What's happend to this site?
We can start now with this post if you like... :smt005 :smt006
I started thinking that maybe FM1 and CDM have maybe matured and didn't engage in that sort of stuff anymore....but come on, who would believe that?
Hijo de la chingada madre pinche pedo viejo joto!!!!!
Feel better now asshole! :smt097 :smt003 :smt005
You know you like it when I talk dirty to you ...you perverted fuck :smt008
Ahhhh! The world is better now....
He asked for it.
Now what's he gonna do with it to get to his damn 25 pages.
Your up "Old Fart ".
Alex
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Well, I just gotta assume anything I say or post is offensive to someone and sometimes to everyone. But then I'm getting old or am old, depending on who is making the determination and I just do not give a shit any more who I piss off with my words. No one seems to give a shit that they piss me off in the first place.
So I'll just lead off with the most recent crap I've heard about that has me pissed off; All these protesting kids who actually believe that global warming is going to end the world as we know it within the next 20 years. What a mind wash these kids are subjected to.
And just in case I'm NOT making myself clear; Global warming is a hoax. And man-made global warming is a double hoax. Lies based on greed. A scam that transcends all other scams in the history of scams combined. A lie with no bounds to the point the liars do not care how much they are harming the next generations with their lies. Science today on global warming has about as much fact and science behind it as science once held that the universe revolved around the earth. Science constantly proves itself to be wrong, is constantly updating, correcting and recorrecting. Hell, they can't even predict the weather out past 5 days without a 50/50 chance of getting it wrong and you're going to tell me they can pronounce we are the cause of global warming?!!
And don't go jumping down MY throat, this is all on OldFart! Speaking of which, corned beef and cabbage today will result in a lot of global warming from me later on. Ha!
Okay, here we go:...I believe the scientists are correct. Science is not a liberal conspiracy or a scam. Even as an uneducated carpenter, I have enough common sense to know that protecting our only planet is a good idea. I also believe that all the carbon pollution does not just go away. I also believe that it is the huge powerful oil industry and other large scale manufacturing industries that are perpetrating the brainwashing scams. They are the ones who have the most $ to lose from environmental regulations. Of course there are those extremists who may exaggerate the effects but I believe the science is pretty clear and the consensus among the world-wide scientific community agrees. We are fucking ourselves eight ways from Sunday with carbon emissions and other pollution.
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Winter is mostly gone and there has yet to be a good 25+ page post with members getting irate, making inappropriate comments, and calling each other names. What's happend to this site?
We can start now with this post if you like... :smt005 :smt006
I started thinking that maybe FM1 and CDM have maybe matured and didn't engage in that sort of stuff anymore....but come on, who would believe that?
Hijo de la chingada madre pinche pedo viejo joto!!!!!
Feel better now asshole! :smt097 :smt003 :smt005
You know you like it when I talk dirty to you ...you perverted fuck :smt008
Ahhhh! The world is better now....
Ad hominem attacks! Now we're getting somewhere!
If Antonio didn't already use up my full knowledge of Spanish vocabulary and wasn't such a nice guy I would reply in kind.
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Facebook causes global warming?
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Don't let this distract you from the the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, Bubba "Spare Tire" Dixon.
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Well, I just gotta assume anything I say or post is offensive to someone and sometimes to everyone. But then I'm getting old or am old, depending on who is making the determination and I just do not give a shit any more who I piss off with my words. No one seems to give a shit that they piss me off in the first place.
So I'll just lead off with the most recent crap I've heard about that has me pissed off; All these protesting kids who actually believe that global warming is going to end the world as we know it within the next 20 years. What a mind wash these kids are subjected to.
And just in case I'm NOT making myself clear; Global warming is a hoax. And man-made global warming is a double hoax. Lies based on greed. A scam that transcends all other scams in the history of scams combined. A lie with no bounds to the point the liars do not care how much they are harming the next generations with their lies. Science today on global warming has about as much fact and science behind it as science once held that the universe revolved around the earth. Science constantly proves itself to be wrong, is constantly updating, correcting and recorrecting. Hell, they can't even predict the weather out past 5 days without a 50/50 chance of getting it wrong and you're going to tell me they can pronounce we are the cause of global warming?!!
And don't go jumping down MY throat, this is all on OldFart! Speaking of which, corned beef and cabbage today will result in a lot of global warming from me later on. Ha!
Okay, here we go:...I believe the scientists are correct. Science is not a liberal conspiracy or a scam. Even as an uneducated carpenter, I have enough common sense to know that protecting our only planet is a good idea. I also believe that all the carbon pollution does not just go away. I also believe that it is the huge powerful oil industry and other large scale manufacturing industries that are perpetrating the brainwashing scams. They are the ones who have the most $ to lose from environmental regulations. Of course there are those extremists who may exaggerate the effects but I believe the science is pretty clear and the consensus among the world-wide scientific community agrees. We are fucking ourselves eight ways from Sunday with carbon emissions and other pollution.
The coral at the great barrier reef is dieing off and is being covered by carbon in the waters. They said it takes about 40-50 years for it to settle down in then ocean floors so what is killing it off is shit from a long time ago. Only the idiots believe global warming isnt a thing. Wake the fuck up and smell the coffee. why is our oceans getting warmer? The sun starfish are dieing off because of the weather temps changing.... Hints why there is an issue with urchins. Why are our winters getting warmer? Everything that we (people) put in the air and in the ground has to go somewhere and it's going to affect something.... Cause and effect... Remember that one from school or are you too old and senile. Denial isnt going to make it go away and it's going to take more than just a few people to change their ways to help. No one is pissed off at you "old man." You should be pissed off at your self for being so dumb and being "brain washed" by the oil and coal industry. Have a good day :smt044 :smt006
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Hopefully as long as we don't involve politics it won't go to 25 pages I made that mistake once and was unable to retract my original post :smt001
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We know it's caused by man. The climate has been unchanging for millions of years until man showed up.
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We know it's caused by man. The climate has been unchanging for millions of years until man showed up.
Well, I didn't want to get into this discussion but....that simply ain't true. The climate is in a constant state of flux. The last ice age was less than 50,000 years ago
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Don't let this distract you from the the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, "Spare Tire" Dixon.
Effing eh......methinks climate change is a global conspiracy to distract the world from this very accomplishment. Buck the system, long live Al Bundy!
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Winter is mostly gone and there has yet to be a good 25+ page post with members getting irate, making inappropriate comments, and calling each other names. What's happend to this site?
Hey old fuck!!! Fuck you and your disappointment!!!
Hows that? :smt003 :smt003 :smt003
Hey Billy Goat who you calling old?
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We know it's caused by man. The climate has been unchanging for millions of years until man showed up.
Well, I didn't want to get into this discussion but....that simply ain't true. The climate is in a constant state of flux. The last ice age was less than 50,000 years ago
That can’t be true. We need to believe! Facts and evidence are meaningless.
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I have enough common sense to know that protecting our only planet is a good idea.
Yes, but spending trillions of dollars on things that will have no measurable impact is just plain stupid.
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I have enough common sense to know that protecting our only planet is a good idea.
Yes, but spending trillions of dollars on things that will have no measurable impact is just plain stupid.
Damn, how is this even still a debate, especially in the fishing community!
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I have enough common sense to know that protecting our only planet is a good idea.
Yes, but spending trillions of dollars on things that will have no measurable impact is just plain stupid.
Damn, how is this even still a debate, especially in the fishing community!
Spending trillions of dollars to delay the date the earth self combusts by 6 days, while China builds a new coal power plant every week is stupid. An agreement that kills our economy while China and India ramp up their CO2 production is stupid. Telling everyone we must “believe” because they have adjusted the data to firmly agree with the propaganda is stupid. Listening to people telling us to “believe” while they continue to fly on their private jet is stupid.
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Listen to what this former Greanpeace environmentalist says.
https://youtu.be/dCrkqLaYjnc
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...are you too old and senile. You should be pissed off at your self for being so dumb and being "brain washed" by the oil and coal industry.
Damn, how is this even still a debate, especially in the fishing community!
It's still a debate because Global Warming is not sound science.
1. It is not elegant
2. It contains several arbitrary, adjustable elements
3. It neither agrees with or explains all existing observations
4. It fails to make detailed predictions about future observations that could disprove Global Warming if the current predictions are not borne out
I spent a large part of my working career as a Hydrographer.
I specifically worked developing models for the measurement and description of the physical features of oceans, seas, coastal areas, lakes and rivers, as well as with the prediction of their change over time.
Science isn't about passion, which, unfortunately, is exactly what young people are being brain washed into thinking is truth. It is about the intellectual and practical study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
I'd enjoy discussing model-dependent realism with anyone familiar with the concept.
Model-dependent realism is a view of scientific inquiry that focuses on the role of scientific models of phenomena.
Many scientists do assume that the physical models which they work with represent the actual underlying physical reality of how nature operates. The problem, of course, is that scientists of the past have also believed this about their own theories and in almost every case their models have been shown by later research to have been incomplete.
But hey! I'm just old, senile, dumb AND brain washed so don't take my word for it. Steven Hawking can better explain model dependent realism in his book 'The Grand Design'.
Model-dependent realism is based on the idea that our brains interpret the input from our sensory organs by making a model of the world. When such a model is successful at explaining events, we tend to attribute to it, and to the elements and concepts that constitute it, the quality of reality or absolute truth.
According to model-dependent realism, it is pointless to ask whether a model is real, only whether it agrees with observation. If there are two models that both agree with observation ... then one cannot say that one is more real than another. One can use whichever model is more convenient in the situation under consideration.
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Like any religion, all that is required is faith.
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3 pages in with 22 to go. :smt006
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Alas, it's springtime weather and the birdies are singing. Peoples minds have waning surliness and are turning to possibilities of catching fish.
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You may have seen the bumper sticker: Al Gore said it, I believe it and that settles it.
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Pretty sure the sun causes global warming.
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So true Crash. It's the suns fault. It cools, we cool, it gets going we get hotter. Its that conservation of energy thingy!
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Listen to what this former Greanpeace environmentalist says.
https://youtu.be/dCrkqLaYjnc
That man is quoting the IPCC from 2007. That document has been revised in 2014 showing even stronger evidence for human-caused global warming. I'd rather trust this document that has been put together by a panel of international experts.
I'm just curious, who benefits from global warming being a hoax? It seems to me that the fossil fuel industry has a lot more to lose than renewables do.
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Winter is mostly gone and there has yet to be a good 25+ page post with members getting irate, making inappropriate comments, and calling each other names. What's happend to this site?
If it makes you feel any better I called someone a hypocrite and shitty on another site over the weekend... :smt009 :smt010
And I've even been killing a fair amount of fish this winter... :smt044
You guys must be rubbing off on me. :smt002 :smt005 :smt044
Or maybe it was the dirty martinis..... :smt003
:smt006
Sincerely,
Jim
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You can't power the world with renewables. Nuclear energy would be the only possible replacement at this time. I don't think it's a hoax. A lot of different groups benefit from pushing the idea of man caused global warming or the updated climate change. Those experts you're trusting, are they as smart as all the experts that said Saddam had weapons of mass destruction?
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Let’s not forget the new ice age promised to us back when I was in high school all the best minds knew it was coming
Let’s go ice fishing at half moon bay
Ya they go that weather thing down
But some how can’t do a five day forecast
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Winter is mostly gone and there has yet to be a good 25+ page post with members getting irate, making inappropriate comments, and calling each other names. What's happend to this site?
If it makes you feel any better I called someone a hypocrite and shitty on another site over the weekend... :smt009 :smt010
And I've even been killing a fair amount of fish this winter... :smt044
You guys must be rubbing off on me. :smt002 :smt005 :smt044
Or maybe it was the dirty martinis..... :smt003
:smt006
Sincerely,
Jim
We DO NOT want to hear about other guys “rubbing off” on you Jim... I repeat we DO NOT!
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Winter is mostly gone and there has yet to be a good 25+ page post with members getting irate, making inappropriate comments, and calling each other names. What's happend to this site?
If it makes you feel any better I called someone a hypocrite and shitty on another site over the weekend... :smt009 :smt010
And I've even been killing a fair amount of fish this winter... :smt044
You guys must be rubbing off on me. :smt002 :smt005 :smt044
Or maybe it was the dirty martinis..... :smt003
:smt006
Sincerely,
Jim
We DO NOT want to hear about other guys “rubbing off” on you Jim... I repeat we DO NOT!
This has been the best advice on this whole thread. :smt005 :smt005
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I dunno Jerry. Its hard for me to believe all those scientists are wrong or practicing bad science. I combine that with my common sense. My money is on the scientists. On the other hand, I hope you're right and I'm wrong.
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vaccines are terrible
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I dunno Jerry. Its hard for me to believe all those scientists are wrong or practicing bad science. I combine that with my common sense. My money is on the scientists. On the other hand, I hope you're right and I'm wrong.
I'm not asking you to believe those scientists are wrong. I'm asking you to question the source of how you are told what scientists are saying on the topic. The press can manipulate what anyone says about any topic, and they do. Same with politicians. When the two work together to control voters to fulfill their own agenda, you are left with a false idea of reality.
Every day I read the newspaper and every day I watch national news on TV. It simply amazes me the way reality is manipulated they report as whole truth.
Ever been on a jury? You hear the same story told by the defense and by the prosecutor. Both are supposed to be solely interested in truth and in justice. But both of them are biased in their telling of the 'facts'. Neither is lying. They would be disbarred. But neither is telling the jury what the truth actually is either without their own slant.
All I'm saying is that the media, the politicians, the oil industry and anyone else with skin in the game is going to report facts as they want you to believe as reality.
It is disappointing that educators don't teach science, they teach media news reports on science. If we want to know the real truth about it, we can't just trust the news media and we sure as hell can not trust the politicians to be telling us what a scientist is saying. We need to hear it from the scientists without the media editing their words.
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And we need to hear both sides of the issue from scientists. Not just the so called “consensus”. The reason we don’t is science is just not able to predict the future with a high accuracy. If they tell the truth they have to say “we believe” or “maybe” or “we fear”. The science doesn’t support declaring absolutes. They have decided they should shade the truth in part because they know they won’t convince anyone to act if they tell the truth and say it is really just a theory based on weak evidence with no real proof. Do you ever wonder why the best argument they offer is pointing to how many scientists believe rather than pointing to conclusive evidence?
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vaccines are terrible
Q: Why was the anti-vaxxer’s 4 year old daughter crying?
A: Midlife crisis
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vaccines are terrible
Q: Why was the anti-vaxxer’s 4 year old daughter crying?
A: Midlife crisis
Thanks for starting my day off with a good laugh!
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Winter is mostly gone and there has yet to be a good 25+ page post with members getting irate, making inappropriate comments, and calling each other names. What's happend to this site?
If it makes you feel any better I called someone a hypocrite and shitty on another site over the weekend... :smt009 :smt010
And I've even been killing a fair amount of fish this winter... :smt044
You guys must be rubbing off on me. :smt002 :smt005 :smt044
Or maybe it was the dirty martinis..... :smt003
:smt006
Sincerely,
Jim
We DO NOT want to hear about other guys “rubbing off” on you Jim... I repeat we DO NOT!
This has been the best advice on this whole thread. :smt005 :smt005
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
:smt005 :smt044
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Winter is mostly gone and there has yet to be a good 25+ page post with members getting irate, making inappropriate comments, and calling each other names. What's happend to this site?
If it makes you feel any better I called someone a hypocrite and shitty on another site over the weekend... :smt009 :smt010
And I've even been killing a fair amount of fish this winter... :smt044
You guys must be rubbing off on me. :smt002 :smt005 :smt044
Or maybe it was the dirty martinis..... :smt003
:smt006
Sincerely,
Jim
We DO NOT want to hear about other guys “rubbing off” on you Jim... I repeat we DO NOT!
This has been the best advice on this whole thread. :smt005 :smt005
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
:smt005 :smt044
I wondered what got you so vocal on that site! hahah.. When this thread first got posted, I almost put the hyperlink to the other site where all the drama was going on about sustainable fishing and how you shouldn't spear a fish bigger than what only you can specifically eat. Jim came in late to the game and was hilariously opinionated =P I got a kick out of it. :smt005 Made me wonder if a martini was involved. :smt044 :smt044
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I dunno Jerry. Its hard for me to believe all those scientists are wrong or practicing bad science. I combine that with my common sense. My money is on the scientists. On the other hand, I hope you're right and I'm wrong.
I'm not asking you to believe those scientists are wrong. I'm asking you to question the source of how you are told what scientists are saying on the topic. The press can manipulate what anyone says about any topic, and they do. Same with politicians. When the two work together to control voters to fulfill their own agenda, you are left with a false idea of reality.
Every day I read the newspaper and every day I watch national news on TV. It simply amazes me the way reality is manipulated they report as whole truth.
Ever been on a jury? You hear the same story told by the defense and by the prosecutor. Both are supposed to be solely interested in truth and in justice. But both of them are biased in their telling of the 'facts'. Neither is lying. They would be disbarred. But neither is telling the jury what the truth actually is either without their own slant.
All I'm saying is that the media, the politicians, the oil industry and anyone else with skin in the game is going to report facts as they want you to believe as reality.
It is disappointing that educators don't teach science, they teach media news reports on science. If we want to know the real truth about it, we can't just trust the news media and we sure as hell can not trust the politicians to be telling us what a scientist is saying. We need to hear it from the scientists without the media editing their words.
Interesting that prior to the advent of social media, most of us learned about the world through the press and the media. Most of us relied on them to provide us with accurate information and most of us believed in people like Walter Cronkite. Now everyone has a conspiracy theory on just about everything and are willing to believe people that support their thoughts as to how the world should be shaped. If you lean right, you watch Fox News. If you lean left you watch any other broadcast other than Fox News. Fair and balanced are no longer necessary in the press. It is all about clicks and views. The internet allows us to come together as a community but it has been shown that it can also rip us apart.
so how about them UFO's? and should there be a State of Jefferson? and do you believe in God? and are you pro Trump or against Trump? And isn't it interesting that the vast majority of the 9/11 terrorists came into our country on Saudi Arabia Visa's and passports?
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so how about them UFO's? and should there be a State of Jefferson? and do you believe in God? and are you pro Trump or against Trump? And isn't it interesting that the vast majority of the 9/11 terrorists came into our country on Saudi Arabia Visa's and passports?
All explainable without resorting to aliens.
Yes.
No.
Neither. I think he is doing a fair job and is better than Clinton would have done but his boorish twiting and trade wars are stupid. He needs to get out of his own way but on balance he is neither this country’s savior nor its downfall.
Yes.
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Winter is mostly gone and there has yet to be a good 25+ page post with members getting irate, making inappropriate comments, and calling each other names. What's happend to this site?
If it makes you feel any better I called someone a hypocrite and shitty on another site over the weekend... :smt009 :smt010
And I've even been killing a fair amount of fish this winter... :smt044
You guys must be rubbing off on me. :smt002 :smt005 :smt044
Or maybe it was the dirty martinis..... :smt003
:smt006
Sincerely,
Jim
We DO NOT want to hear about other guys “rubbing off” on you Jim... I repeat we DO NOT!
This has been the best advice on this whole thread. :smt005 :smt005
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
:smt005 :smt044
Keep an eye on that pinky finger :smt044
Specially after seeing that cigar and “ DingaLing” dangling photo in the villa window!!!! :smt044
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Interesting that prior to the advent of social media, most of us learned about the world through the press and the media. Most of us relied on them to provide us with accurate information and most of us believed in people like Walter Cronkite. Now everyone has a conspiracy theory on just about everything and are willing to believe people that support their thoughts as to how the world should be shaped. If you lean right, you watch Fox News. If you lean left you watch any other broadcast other than Fox News. Fair and balanced are no longer necessary in the press. It is all about clicks and views. The internet allows us to come together as a community but it has been shown that it can also rip us apart.
Somewhere along the line, news reporting became biased as you pointed out. Sensationalism sells and the reporter becomes the story. Brian Williams from NBC is a fine example. Politicians we have come to expect it from, Hillary claiming she was in a plane shot at while landing in some 'shit-hole' nation I can't recall which. When a lowly news anchor does it, his career is ruined. What a mixed up world we live in!!
So the only thing we can do is to either ignore them all or become ourselves the investigator into the stories being reported.
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so how about them UFO's? and should there be a State of Jefferson? and do you believe in God? and are you pro Trump or against Trump? And isn't it interesting that the vast majority of the 9/11 terrorists came into our country on Saudi Arabia Visa's and passports?
UFO's; Not space aliens. At least not to the point Trump, as commander in chief was briefed on the topic or we'd have heard about a space wall by now. Oh, wait. Trump is formulating a new branch of of the military; The Space Force I think. Uh Oh....
State of Jefferson; Actually I think the West Coast needs as many states as the East Coast has. We are way under represented and California is way to large for one state government to best serve all it's residents. (Notice I did NOT call them citizens...)
God; yes, but probably not in the sense most people claim to believe in God. Religion is the antithesis of God.
Trump; The lesser of two evils. I shutter to think what would have happened if Hillary had gotten into office. She is just felt too entitled in my opinion, thinking she deserved that position and it was owed to her. Hardly the heart of a servant of the people.Many other fine candidates that weren't flamboyant enough to get the press's attention.
911; terrorism knows no bounds. Proving evil can come from anywhere at anytime from any source, it's dangerous to only look for it to come from one direction or another. Part of the solution is putting more guns in hands of vetted citizens instead of stripping away means of defense and thereby assuring terrorists will succeed before they can be neutralized.
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Well, I just gotta assume anything I say or post is offensive to someone and sometimes to everyone. But then I'm getting old or am old, depending on who is making the determination and I just do not give a shit any more who I piss off with my words. No one seems to give a shit that they piss me off in the first place.
So I'll just lead off with the most recent crap I've heard about that has me pissed off; All these protesting kids who actually believe that global warming is going to end the world as we know it within the next 20 years. What a mind wash these kids are subjected to.
And just in case I'm NOT making myself clear; Global warming is a hoax. And man-made global warming is a double hoax. Lies based on greed. A scam that transcends all other scams in the history of scams combined. A lie with no bounds to the point the liars do not care how much they are harming the next generations with their lies. Science today on global warming has about as much fact and science behind it as science once held that the universe revolved around the earth. Science constantly proves itself to be wrong, is constantly updating, correcting and recorrecting. Hell, they can't even predict the weather out past 5 days without a 50/50 chance of getting it wrong and you're going to tell me they can pronounce we are the cause of global warming?!!
And don't go jumping down MY throat, this is all on OldFart! Speaking of which, corned beef and cabbage today will result in a lot of global warming from me later on. Ha!
And smoking as never caused cancer... Putin is America's friend.. Kim Jung Un is really a nice guy... Unbelieveable how stupid people can be... Gawd,,, I came here to get away from the idiots on FB... :smt011
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so how about them UFO's? and should there be a State of Jefferson? and do you believe in God? and are you pro Trump or against Trump? And isn't it interesting that the vast majority of the 9/11 terrorists came into our country on Saudi Arabia Visa's and passports?
UFO's; Not space aliens. At least not to the point Trump, as commander in chief was briefed on the topic or we'd have heard about a space wall by now. Oh, wait. Trump is formulating a new branch of of the military; The Space Force I think. Uh Oh....
State of Jefferson; Actually I think the West Coast needs as many states as the East Coast has. We are way under represented and California is way to large for one state government to best serve all it's residents. (Notice I did NOT call them citizens...)
God; yes, but probably not in the sense most people claim to believe in God. Religion is the antithesis of God.
Trump; The lesser of two evils. I shutter to think what would have happened if Hillary had gotten into office. She is just felt too entitled in my opinion, thinking she deserved that position and it was owed to her. Hardly the heart of a servant of the people.Many other fine candidates that weren't flamboyant enough to get the press's attention.
911; terrorism knows no bounds. Proving evil can come from anywhere at anytime from any source, it's dangerous to only look for it to come from one direction or another. Part of the solution is putting more guns in hands of vetted citizens instead of stripping away means of defense and thereby assuring terrorists will succeed before they can be neutralized.
Hi Jerry, be encouraged, I enjoyed every word you shared. If we meet, a hardy handshake and a brotherly hug are in store :smt006
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Hi Jerry, be encouraged, I enjoyed every word you shared. If we meet, a hardy handshake and a brotherly hug are in store :smt006
Hi right back achya Eddie!
I'm gonna try and make the Berryessa F-n-C coming up. Look for me in John's oldfart's camp spot. We'll be the old guys with the moonshine and 'keep off the lawn' sign. Ha! (John's Dog's Breath Brandi will both peel paint and put hair on your chest)
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Hi Jerry, be encouraged, I enjoyed every word you shared. If we meet, a hardy handshake and a brotherly hug are in store :smt006
Hi right back achya Eddie!
I'm gonna try and make the Berryessa F-n-C coming up. Look for me in John's oldfart's camp spot. We'll be the old guys with the moonshine and 'keep off the lawn' sign. Ha! (John's Dog's Breath Brandi will both peel paint and put hair on your chest)
Dang...as long as there's no meth involved I'm good :smt005, have fun, berryessa's not in my game plan but may have to consider... :smt006
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so how about them UFO's? and should there be a State of Jefferson? and do you believe in God? and are you pro Trump or against Trump? And isn't it interesting that the vast majority of the 9/11 terrorists came into our country on Saudi Arabia Visa's and passports?
UFO's; Not space aliens. At least not to the point Trump, as commander in chief was briefed on the topic or we'd have heard about a space wall by now. Oh, wait. Trump is formulating a new branch of of the military; The Space Force I think. Uh Oh....
State of Jefferson; Actually I think the West Coast needs as many states as the East Coast has. We are way under represented and California is way to large for one state government to best serve all it's residents. (Notice I did NOT call them citizens...)
God; yes, but probably not in the sense most people claim to believe in God. Religion is the antithesis of God.
Trump; The lesser of two evils. I shutter to think what would have happened if Hillary had gotten into office. She is just felt too entitled in my opinion, thinking she deserved that position and it was owed to her. Hardly the heart of a servant of the people.Many other fine candidates that weren't flamboyant enough to get the press's attention.
911; terrorism knows no bounds. Proving evil can come from anywhere at anytime from any source, it's dangerous to only look for it to come from one direction or another. Part of the solution is putting more guns in hands of vetted citizens instead of stripping away means of defense and thereby assuring terrorists will succeed before they can be neutralized.
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You should have tried needling politics post indirectly. Then maybe, just maybe it could start a new "members getting irate, making inappropriate comments, and calling each other names." :smt044 :smt044
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There is a slight chance that 1% of the population may be psycho killers who could potentially use a firearm to commit mass murder...so let’s give everybody firearms. Heck, let’s mandate it.
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There is a slight chance that 1% of the population may be psycho killers who could potentially use a firearm to commit mass murder...so let’s give everybody firearms. Heck, let’s mandate it.
Full auto for the 99. That will solve all of our problems
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There is a slight chance that 1% of the population may be psycho killers who could potentially use a firearm to commit mass murder...so let’s give everybody firearms. Heck, let’s mandate it.
Full auto for the 99. That will solve all of our problems
+1 I have made sure all the women in my Family know how to use a firearm. My Aunt loves her full Auto
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There is a slight chance that 1% of the population may be psycho killers who could potentially use a firearm to commit mass murder...so let’s give everybody firearms. Heck, let’s mandate it.
Full auto for the 99. That will solve all of our problems
+1 I have made sure all the women in my Family know how to use a firearm. My Aunt loves her full Auto
An armed society is a polite society, how many mass shooting you hear about at the police station, gun range, or gun store? None!
And while we’re at it.........
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There is a slight chance that 1% of the population may be psycho killers who could potentially use a firearm to commit mass murder...so let’s give everybody firearms. Heck, let’s mandate it.
Full auto for the 99. That will solve all of our problems
+1 I have made sure all the women in my Family know how to use a firearm. My Aunt loves her full Auto
An armed society is a polite society, how man mass shooting you hear about at the police station, gun range, or gun store? None!
And while we’re at it.........
+1!
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the earth is flat.
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...are you too old and senile. You should be pissed off at your self for being so dumb and being "brain washed" by the oil and coal industry.
Damn, how is this even still a debate, especially in the fishing community!
It's still a debate because Global Warming is not sound science.
1. It is not elegant
2. It contains several arbitrary, adjustable elements
3. It neither agrees with or explains all existing observations
4. It fails to make detailed predictions about future observations that could disprove Global Warming if the current predictions are not borne out
I spent a large part of my working career as a Hydrographer.
I specifically worked developing models for the measurement and description of the physical features of oceans, seas, coastal areas, lakes and rivers, as well as with the prediction of their change over time.
Science isn't about passion, which, unfortunately, is exactly what young people are being brain washed into thinking is truth. It is about the intellectual and practical study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
I'd enjoy discussing model-dependent realism with anyone familiar with the concept.
Model-dependent realism is a view of scientific inquiry that focuses on the role of scientific models of phenomena.
Many scientists do assume that the physical models which they work with represent the actual underlying physical reality of how nature operates. The problem, of course, is that scientists of the past have also believed this about their own theories and in almost every case their models have been shown by later research to have been incomplete.
But hey! I'm just old, senile, dumb AND brain washed so don't take my word for it. Steven Hawking can better explain model dependent realism in his book 'The Grand Design'.
Model-dependent realism is based on the idea that our brains interpret the input from our sensory organs by making a model of the world. When such a model is successful at explaining events, we tend to attribute to it, and to the elements and concepts that constitute it, the quality of reality or absolute truth.
According to model-dependent realism, it is pointless to ask whether a model is real, only whether it agrees with observation. If there are two models that both agree with observation ... then one cannot say that one is more real than another. One can use whichever model is more convenient in the situation under consideration.
Whether it's true or not true are we really willing to take the chance the scientists got it right this time? Maybe if you don't have grandkids...
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...are you too old and senile. You should be pissed off at your self for being so dumb and being "brain washed" by the oil and coal industry.
Damn, how is this even still a debate, especially in the fishing community!
It's still a debate because Global Warming is not sound science.
1. It is not elegant
2. It contains several arbitrary, adjustable elements
3. It neither agrees with or explains all existing observations
4. It fails to make detailed predictions about future observations that could disprove Global Warming if the current predictions are not borne out
I spent a large part of my working career as a Hydrographer.
I specifically worked developing models for the measurement and description of the physical features of oceans, seas, coastal areas, lakes and rivers, as well as with the prediction of their change over time.
Science isn't about passion, which, unfortunately, is exactly what young people are being brain washed into thinking is truth. It is about the intellectual and practical study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
I'd enjoy discussing model-dependent realism with anyone familiar with the concept.
Model-dependent realism is a view of scientific inquiry that focuses on the role of scientific models of phenomena.
Many scientists do assume that the physical models which they work with represent the actual underlying physical reality of how nature operates. The problem, of course, is that scientists of the past have also believed this about their own theories and in almost every case their models have been shown by later research to have been incomplete.
But hey! I'm just old, senile, dumb AND brain washed so don't take my word for it. Steven Hawking can better explain model dependent realism in his book 'The Grand Design'.
Model-dependent realism is based on the idea that our brains interpret the input from our sensory organs by making a model of the world. When such a model is successful at explaining events, we tend to attribute to it, and to the elements and concepts that constitute it, the quality of reality or absolute truth.
According to model-dependent realism, it is pointless to ask whether a model is real, only whether it agrees with observation. If there are two models that both agree with observation ... then one cannot say that one is more real than another. One can use whichever model is more convenient in the situation under consideration.
Whether it's true or not true are we really willing to take the chance the scientists got it right this time? Maybe if you don't have grandkids...
We have to ask what the solution is. Outlawing incandescent light bulbs delays the temperature rise by only minutes and is not really helpful. To really accomplish the prevention of global warming we pretty much need to eliminate the use of fossil fuels. Are you really willing to do that to the people of the world? Many global warming alarmists think the worlds population needs to be drastically reduced. Who do we eliminate, maybe those grandkids you’re talking about? There is a large anti technology, anti industrial religious fervor behind this movement. Is returning to a lifestyle of the 1700’s a good solution? That is the direction most alarmists want to go. Some people believe in a creative solution that involves inventing new technologies that will reduce the production of greenhouse gasses. Look deeper, past the headlines to see what it really is that is being offered as a solution and will it really help and at what physical and economic cost.
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the earth is flat.
Yep.
And there are fish in Santa Cruz.
:smt002
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Bovine flatulance
https://www.popsci.com/tags/climate-change
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...are you too old and senile. You should be pissed off at your self for being so dumb and being "brain washed" by the oil and coal industry.
Damn, how is this even still a debate, especially in the fishing community!
It's still a debate because Global Warming is not sound science.
1. It is not elegant
2. It contains several arbitrary, adjustable elements
3. It neither agrees with or explains all existing observations
4. It fails to make detailed predictions about future observations that could disprove Global Warming if the current predictions are not borne out
I spent a large part of my working career as a Hydrographer.
I specifically worked developing models for the measurement and description of the physical features of oceans, seas, coastal areas, lakes and rivers, as well as with the prediction of their change over time.
Science isn't about passion, which, unfortunately, is exactly what young people are being brain washed into thinking is truth. It is about the intellectual and practical study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
I'd enjoy discussing model-dependent realism with anyone familiar with the concept.
Model-dependent realism is a view of scientific inquiry that focuses on the role of scientific models of phenomena.
Many scientists do assume that the physical models which they work with represent the actual underlying physical reality of how nature operates. The problem, of course, is that scientists of the past have also believed this about their own theories and in almost every case their models have been shown by later research to have been incomplete.
But hey! I'm just old, senile, dumb AND brain washed so don't take my word for it. Steven Hawking can better explain model dependent realism in his book 'The Grand Design'.
Model-dependent realism is based on the idea that our brains interpret the input from our sensory organs by making a model of the world. When such a model is successful at explaining events, we tend to attribute to it, and to the elements and concepts that constitute it, the quality of reality or absolute truth.
According to model-dependent realism, it is pointless to ask whether a model is real, only whether it agrees with observation. If there are two models that both agree with observation ... then one cannot say that one is more real than another. One can use whichever model is more convenient in the situation under consideration.
Whether it's true or not true are we really willing to take the chance the scientists got it right this time? Maybe if you don't have grandkids...
We have to ask what the solution is. Outlawing incandescent light bulbs delays the temperature rise by only minutes and is not really helpful. To really accomplish the prevention of global warming we pretty much need to eliminate the use of fossil fuels. Are you really willing to do that to the people of the world? Many global warming alarmists think the worlds population needs to be drastically reduced. Who do we eliminate, maybe those grandkids you’re talking about? There is a large anti technology, anti industrial religious fervor behind this movement. Is returning to a lifestyle of the 1700’s a good solution? That is the direction most alarmists want to go. Some people believe in a creative solution that involves inventing new technologies that will reduce the production of greenhouse gasses. Look deeper, past the headlines to see what it really is that is being offered as a solution and will it really help and at what physical and economic cost.
and why do we think that as individuals living in America that our choices will have an ounce of impact on the world if this is a real threat? Switching to solar, led, not using aerosols, and all the other global warming/climate change flavor of the day science may or may not add another two seconds of time if any of this science is real. My reason for such a dismal outlook is to take a look at the other manufacturing companies throughout the world that are polluting the worlds air and oceans. We are force fed so much from politics and industry that it comes down to making your own personal choices on living your life your way and hopefully leaving behind a legacy that is positive for the people you care about. If this is all real and not hype/scare tactics for profit, the world will be fine for at least another 1000 years or so. I think the great grand kids will be fine and the science will be improved 100 years from now. Short version....just keep fishing and live your life without stressing over stuff you can't control, and fix the stuff that you can in your life.
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Back to my original rant; the way media, teachers and politicians are all terrorizing kids these days into thinking they are not going to have a habitable world in a mere 20 years from now and the protests they are brain washed into participating in. It is a lie and there's an agenda behind the scenes why it's allowed to be taking place. The next generation is being trained to be angry with the current generation. Why is that?
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Back to my original rant; the way media, teachers and politicians are all terrorizing kids these days into thinking they are not going to have a habitable world in a mere 20 years from now and the protests they are brain washed into participating in. It is a lie and there's an agenda behind the scenes why it's allowed to be taking place. The next generation is being trained to be angry with the current generation. Why is that?
Its the evolution of the "trophy and juice box for everyone regardless of result" mentality. Welcome to what should be called Gen E (E for Entitled). Kids have been taught that they are not responsible for poor behavior and to blame others and demand more from the people around them. Personal responsibility is a thing of the past and there are plenty of parents that follow this dogma and pass it down to their kids.
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WASHINGTON — A major Greenland glacier that was one of the fastest shrinking ice and snow masses on Earth is growing again, a new NASA study finds.
The Jakobshavn glacier around 2012 was retreating about 1.8 miles and thinning nearly 130 feet annually. But it started growing again at about the same rate in the past two years, according to a study in Monday’s Nature Geoscience.
“That was kind of a surprise. We kind of got used to a runaway system,” said Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland ice and climate scientist Jason Box.
https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/amp/ncna987116
If the experts truly understood climate as they claim, why do I see so many articles where they are surprised by something they didn’t expect? If they knew what they were talking about, shouldn’t they have been predicting that the glacier would start growing again?
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You are asking too much of science to be able to forecast all details involved in climate change. There are multitudes of factors involving weather and climate change. Just because some seem contradictory to the climate scientists main thesis doesn't mean that their main assertions that the climate has warmed because of human activity is false. You can look for the climate warming data in a NASA site or department of defense, both non political entities. What warming means for the future is harder to predict but certain events will occur. Oceans will rise, water warming will effect eco systems. Check our own coast for what has happened already. More algae bloom, greater amounts of acid in the water affecting shell fish etc. Personally, I think we've passed the tipping point and will have to live with the results but slowing the process down seems to me to be a good thing.