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CA Regulations / Rockfish Season Closed until approve by the Office of Administrative Law
« on: March 30, 2024, 09:52:50 AM »
The 2024 groundfish seasons are expected to be reviewed and approved by the Office of Administrative Law and take effect in state waters in early April. The Commission and California Department of Fish and Wildlife staff have worked diligently to expedite the adoption of state regulations to allow boat-based anglers to get on the water beginning in April. Until the 2024 regulations are approved, the 2023 regulations remain in effect.

Once the regulations become effective, CDFW’s Summary of Recreational Groundfish Fishing Regulations web page https://wildlife.ca.gov/Fishing/Ocean/Regulations/Groundfish-Summary?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery will be updated with 2024 regulations. Before fishing, anglers should refer to this web page for the season openings and other regulatory information. 

Paul

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CA Regulations / Re: Proposed 2024 Groundfish Regulation Change Summary (3/22/2024)
« on: March 29, 2024, 06:57:41 AM »
Quote from: srdave on March 29, 2024, 06:39:05 AM
What are there rules for party boats for a descending device ?
Another question:  if your on a party boat and you have caught your limit do you have to stop fishing ? My son said they move fish from your bag to others who have not caught limits and every one keeps fishing ?

What are there rules for party boats for a descending device ? Same rule
Another question:  if your on a party boat and you have caught your limit do you have to stop fishing ? My son said they move fish from your bag to others who have not caught limits and every one keeps fishing ?  There is a boat limit rule.

Paul

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For Sale / Re: Shimano Talavera Type Slow J Jigging Rod
« on: March 28, 2024, 09:05:54 PM »
Quote from: MooMoo Outdoors on March 28, 2024, 06:06:38 PM
If I only live closer...
Moo, I can pick it up for you in May.

Paul

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CA Regulations / Re: 2024 Groundfish Regulation Change Summary (Approved on 3/26/2024)
« on: March 27, 2024, 10:11:18 AM »
Quote from: Eddie on March 27, 2024, 10:01:33 AM
Quote from: dan916 on March 27, 2024, 09:23:23 AM
I picked up one of these descenders from Amazon. Makes it easy to release them at the right depths. Just set the depth you want them to be released at and then drop it down.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00DMKCF76/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
Dang that’s nice.  I have one of those grippers.  Mod life?  I wonder if there are any government funds to subsidize that purchase. :smt005 :smt006
Hi Eddie

I know that CDFW distributed descenders for free previously, and I discussed with CDFW staff to get some for our group, but they stated that they don't have any funding for the program.
Hopefully, we can get some later.

Paul

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CA Regulations / Re: 2024 Groundfish Regulation Change Summary (Approved on 3/26/2024)
« on: March 27, 2024, 08:54:58 AM »
Quote from: essrigr on March 27, 2024, 08:51:36 AM
Thank you Paul, the information you gave is great, I'll have to digest it. This will be new for me as last year we just fished off a boat. looking forward to a kayak adventure. I'll review the past post and look for the GPS points, I may have some questions to post, thanks again for your work on this, R.
Hi Ron

We should chase some rockfish and halibut together, this season.

Paul

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CA Regulations / Re: 2024 Groundfish Regulation Change Summary (Approved on 3/26/2024)
« on: March 27, 2024, 08:13:08 AM »
Quote from: AlsHobieOutback on March 27, 2024, 08:06:35 AM
Quote from: Mark L on March 27, 2024, 07:49:38 AM
Quote from: srdave on March 27, 2024, 07:13:20 AM
Quote from: NowhereMan on March 26, 2024, 07:27:54 PM
Thanks for the info!

SFD looks super-simple. But, are we really supposed to use a descending device, even if fish are caught in relatively shallow water? I usually fish for for bigger game, and generally barbless. I've released vast numbers of RF bycatch, and it's always no-touch--just grab the hook and shake. It seems to me that a descending device will have a lot more chance of harming the fish than what I do, with no possible benefit, at least in shallow(ish) water.

 
No I'm sure if it goes down easy like you said a few shakes and it goes , that's the best way anyway. As far as harming effect if its bad enough its lingcod/shark bait.
Can you imagine the look on that lingcod when it sees a large fish being shaken as you yank on the descending device. LOL heck it might be worth putting a lure on above the descending device and leave it there after you yank the other fish off eh? never know.

This will work with smaller fish.
I don't think that will work if the fish has barotrauma.  You wont be able to send a bloated fish down with only a couple of ounces, you need something over 6oz and more is better/easier to descend.

I attached a large Snap Swivel to adding additional weights simpler.

Paul

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CA Regulations / Re: 2024 Groundfish Regulation Change Summary (Approved on 3/26/2024)
« on: March 26, 2024, 06:28:51 PM »
Quote from: bbt95762 on March 26, 2024, 06:24:26 PM
Thanks for the update Paul
and thank you for all the work you put into this

May 1 is my new christmas :)

You guys are very welcome. 
Lately, I have been watching many rockfishing-related videos to prepare for the season opener.
I can't wait to try some new techniques and jigs.

Paul

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CA Regulations / Re: 2024 Groundfish Regulation Change Summary (Approved on 3/26/2024)
« on: March 26, 2024, 04:39:37 PM »
Quote from: MooMoo Outdoors on March 26, 2024, 04:32:46 PM
Did they say anything about Copper?
No, I didn't hear any.
I don't think there will be any changes for Copper.

Paul

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CA Regulations / 2024 Groundfish Regulation Change Summary (Approved on 3/26/2024)
« on: March 26, 2024, 01:52:17 PM »
Fish and Game Commission adopted the proposed in-season groundfish regulation change during the teleconference meeting on March 26, 2024
 
This is only a partial victory, and we will continue to seek an exception for the Non-Motorized Vessels to provide us equal access time as power boaters.  Thank you to all workgroup members and other supporters.

​You can watch the meeting video recording: https://cal-span.org/meeting/cfg_20240326/

This change must go through the California and Federal administration process and is expected to be effective in early April 2024.  Make sure you verify that the season is officially open prior to going fishing in Apri.

1. Season structure (See Table 1 for the summary)

In the Northern, Mendocino, San Francisco, and the Central-North of 36° N latitude GMAs, the season structure is proposed as:
• closed January through March;
• open seaward of the 50-fathom boundary line for shelf rockfish, slope rockfish, and lingcod in April, October, and December; and
• open shoreward of the newly-established 20-fathom boundary line in May through September, and November.

In the Central-South of 36° N latitude and Southern GMAs, the season structure is proposed as:
• closed January through March;
• open in all depths April through June;
• open shoreward of the 50-fathom boundary line July through September; and
• open seaward of the 50-fathom boundary line for shelf rockfish, slope rockfish, and lingcod October through December.​

Downloadable Files

20-Fathom Boundary Line off California: https://wildlife.ca.gov/Conservation/Marine/Groundfish#287201301-20-fm-line


2. Descending Devices: No person shall take or possess any federal groundfish as defined in Section 1.91 and all greenlings of the genus Hexagrammos from any boat or other floating device in ocean waters without having a descending device in possession and available for immediate use to assist in releasing rockfish to the depth of capture.

​Three major descending devices are currently available for purchase, and I want to share what I know of them.  Some people use homemade ones, too.

​ SFD™ (Shelton Fish Descender™)

It is low-cost and simple to use

I attached a large snap swivel to attach the weight

User instruction: https://www.sheltonproducts.com/SFD.html

Purchasing options:
https://www.sheltonproducts.com/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C7UJYB2/?coliid=ID1N08HIMJUZ6&colid=2IP2SHYUKL6Z5&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it
eBay

 

SeaQualizer Descending Device

More advanced options to preset release depth (Shallow - 30'-50'-70', Standard - 50'-100'-150', Deep - 100'-200'-300')
Recommend the Shallow model

User instruction: https://seaqualizer.com/technology/

Purchasing options:
https://seaqualizer.com/product/seaqualizer-descending-device/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R2BLV3Z/?coliid=I1YJYBRWPNZKC2&colid=2IP2SHYUKL6Z5&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it

Fishsaverpro Descender

User instruction: https://fishsaverpro.com/how-to-use-guide/

Purchasing options:
https://fishsaverpro.myshopify.com/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083NN7Z2K/?coliid=IDRPRRN6CQ87Y&colid=2IP2SHYUKL6Z5&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it

​3. Quillback no take – 0 Bag limit

Quillback Identification Flyer: https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=197176&inline

 4. Vermilion limit reduction to 2-sub bag limit in all areas except Northern Groundfish Management Area, which has a 4-sub bag limit.

​Visit the Non-Motorized Vessel Petition Website for additional information: https://paul95255.wixsite.com/non-motorized-vessel

Full Revised Proposed Regulatory Language - March 22, 2024: https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=221409&inline

Staff Summary for March 26, 2024, FGC Meeting-Recreational Fishing Regulations for Federal Groundfish: https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=221407&inline

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CA Regulations / Re: Proposed 2024 Groundfish Regulation Change Summary (3/22/2024)
« on: March 26, 2024, 12:47:01 PM »
Quote from: AlsHobieOutback on March 26, 2024, 12:11:30 PM
Quote
4.   Vermillion limit reduction to 2-sub bag limit in all areas except Northern Groundfish Management Area, which has a 4-sub bag limit.

Is there a data based reason for this change?  I have a feeling that it's exploratory management.

I didn't follow the vermilion issue closely, but they did run a model to estimate Total Mortality vs. Harvest Limit.
You can read more details about the change from the following Staff Summary: https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=221407&inline

Paul

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General Fishing Tips / Re: Navionics Boating App - Importing Line, Tracks, Route Help
« on: March 25, 2024, 08:06:48 AM »
Quote from: bbt95762 on March 25, 2024, 07:17:30 AM
Quote from: lucky13 on September 29, 2023, 04:34:59 PM
Also, it seems Navionics should fix their problem, especially when they had just up'd their annual subscription to 50 bucks.

ouch, I haven't purchased the app yet (hate subscriptions) almost had myself over the hump on $25...but I won't pay $50 for a different presentation of data provided free by the government.

it would be cool to add the line as Paul is doing though, good for situational awareness.

I have enjoyed using their Relief Shading overlay option for the last two years, but I don't think it is worth $50 per year.
I plan not to renew my subscription when it expires in July 2024.

Paul

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General Fishing Tips / Re: Navionics Boating App - Importing Line, Tracks, Route Help
« on: March 24, 2024, 07:12:59 PM »
Quote from: divenfish on March 24, 2024, 04:25:54 PM
I am reviving an old topic now since we have to be outside the 50 ftm or within the 20 ftm line for the upcoming rockfish season.
Was anyone successful in importing these lines into the Navionics Boating App?
If yes how?
Thanks!

I have 50fa w MLPA converted to Navionics App file format by AlsHobieOutback. The 20fa file is in general GPX file format and cannot be imported directly into the Navionics App, but you should be able to import it into your fish finder.

You will see all the downloadable GPX files on this website: https://paul95255.wixsite.com/non-motorized-vessel

Paul


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CA Regulations / Re: Proposed 2024 Groundfish Regulation Change Summary (3/22/2024)
« on: March 23, 2024, 07:57:24 AM »
Quote from: Sailfish on March 23, 2024, 07:50:26 AM
Quote from: 123engineering on March 23, 2024, 05:57:16 AM
Quote from: Sailfish on March 22, 2024, 10:00:00 PM
I searched the web but can't find a map that shows the devide line between California Central-N and Cetral-S of 36degree.  Appreciate if someone can post it here.

Hi Sonny

I have attached a blown-up view of the 36° N latitude line.
Paul

Thanks Paul.  I am trying to find out if Monterey County is North or South of the 36° line.

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CA Regulations / Re: Proposed 2024 Groundfish Regulation Change Summary (3/22/2024)
« on: March 23, 2024, 05:57:16 AM »
Quote from: Sailfish on March 22, 2024, 10:00:00 PM
I searched the web but can't find a map that shows the devide line between California Central-N and Cetral-S of 36degree.  Appreciate if someone can post it here.

Hi Sonny

I have attached a blown-up view of the 36° N latitude line.

Paul

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CA Regulations / Proposed 2024 Groundfish Regulation Change Summary (3/22/2024)
« on: March 22, 2024, 06:58:29 PM »
This revised regulation will be adopted at the FGC meeting on March 26, 2024.


1.   Season structure (See Table 1 for the summary)
        a.   In the Northern, Mendocino, San Francisco, and the Central-North of 36° N latitude GMAs, the season structure is proposed as:
                • closed January through March;
                • open seaward of the 50-fathom boundary line for shelf rockfish, slope rockfish, and lingcod in April, October, and December; and
                • open shoreward of the newly-established 20-fathom boundary line in May through September, and November.

     b.   In the Central-South of 36° N latitude and Southern GMAs, the season structure is proposed as:
                • closed January through March;
                • open in all depths April through June;
                • open shoreward of the 50-fathom boundary line July through September; and
                • open seaward of the 50-fathom boundary line for shelf rockfish, slope rockfish, and lingcod October through December.

2.   Descending Devices: No person shall take or possess any federal groundfish as defined in Section 1.91 and all greenlings of the genus Hexagrammos from any boat or other floating device in ocean waters without having a descending device in possession and available for immediate use to assist in releasing rockfish to the depth of capture.

3.   Quillback no take – 0 Bag limit
Quillback Identification Flyer: https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=197176&inline

4.   Vermillion limit reduction to 2-sub bag limit in all areas except Northern Groundfish Management Area, which has a 4-sub bag limit.

Full Revised Proposed Regulatory Language - March 22, 2024: https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=221409&inline

Staff Summary for March 26, 2024, FGC Meeting-Recreational Fishing Regulations for Federal Groundfish: https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=221407&inline

March 26, 2024 California Fish and Game Commission meeting revised agenda: https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=220116&inline

Visit the Non-Motorized Vessel Petition Website for additional information: https://paul95255.wixsite.com/non-motorized-vessel


Paul

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