NorCal Kayak Anglers
Kayak Zone => Kayaks => Hobie Kayaks => Topic started by: Sailfish on March 03, 2024, 07:07:34 PM
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My Adventure rudder steering line broke and need to be fixed or replaced. Anyone replaced these lines with different on the shelves lines? Need to fix this for my next fishing trip this week. Thanks for any suggestions or tips.
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Hope this helps Sonny
https://youtu.be/yJA_fgreoac?si=sybeEJu4px6p218d
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Hope this helps Sonny
https://youtu.be/yJA_fgreoac?si=sybeEJu4px6p218d
Thanks for the links Mel. Fortunately the line broke near the rudder so I can temporarily fix it by extending it with similar line that's strong enough. Thinking about 100lb braid line but not sure if this will work.
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Hi Sonny
I am not experiened with Adventure but replaced rudder line for our Hobie Oasis. I think Adventure might be running a heavier line. You can purchase just a line from a kayak shop or West Marine. 100 lb line is not strong enough. I noticed people are using the 2mm Robline Ocean 3000 Dyneema Line.
https://westcoastsailing.net/2mm-robline-ocean-3000-dyneema-line/ (https://westcoastsailing.net/2mm-robline-ocean-3000-dyneema-line/)
Take your broken line and try to get one with a similar size. Good luck.
p.s. I am attaching a portion of Hobie Stowaway rudder manual which might be helpful. If you need the rest of the manual, just let me know.
Paul
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Thanks Paul for the suggestion and illustration pictures. I will try West Marine tomorrow to see if the have something that might work.
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Thanks Paul for the suggestion and illustration pictures. I will try West Marine tomorrow to see if the have something that might work.
If you don't find one, please let me know.
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Thanks Paul for the suggestion and illustration pictures. I will try West Marine tomorrow to see if the have something that might work.
If you don't find one, please let me know.
Thanks for the offer Paul. Searching the web for specifications of the line and found the following: strength = 700lb, brand is Spectra braid 12 strands, diameter = 1.75mm, cost is 52 cents/ft. Will order some but need something for temporary quick fix to go fishing on Tuesday :smt003
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Found a better vendor with lower cost/ft :smt003
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Here is my temporary repair instruction. Hope this will help you go fishing this week.
If I get to go fishing at Monterey, I will let you know and bring some lines for you. I carry spare lines and tubes as a part of my emergency bag.
Paul
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Breaks near the rudder are the easy ones to fix! They are connected by loops and knots to the internal cords. See my rudder line replacement https://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=54510.msg614512#msg614512
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As far as what to use to replace it, I've used a lot of things but wouldn't recommend braid. What I used last time is a tent guy line :smt005 But Nowherman's use of dyneema you can buy at West Marine is probably an improvement over the hobie dacron. https://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=98151.msg1112099#msg1112099
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I'm not in a hobie, so don't know if this would work for you or not.
I saw my rudder cable was starting to fray, and during the investigation, discovered that the cable inner and put housing were both significantly longer than the kayak needed. I trimmed about the same amount off both the inner and outer, pulled everything nice and tight and secured. Good to go!
Again, not sure if that would work for you or not. I have the 11ft kayak in a model range that goes to 14ft, and Pelican uses the same rudder kit for every model, so my cables were pretty long.
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Thanks for all the tips and suggestions guys. Over the years, I've learned that NCKA has the greatest technical resources! :smt008
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Able to temporarily fixed the broken steering line with some "extra" lines from others :smt003. Thanks again guys.
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I used 2.5mm amsteel, which is braided dyneema (same as spectra):
https://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=98151.msg1112099#msg1112099
It's held up well on my AI...
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Go get um Sonny!
When can we expect the report?
:smt006
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Go get um Sonny!
When can we expect the report?
:smt006
Pfffff, this guy Sonny :smt007. I pulled out my smoker cuz a him...gotta find sumpin' to smoke though...
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Go get um Sonny!
When can we expect the report?
:smt006
Pfffff, this guy Sonny :smt007. I pulled out my smoker cuz a him...gotta find sumpin' to smoke though...
You thinking he might catch so many you could get a couple of his extras? 🙂
Actually a little birdie told me some were picking up a flatty or two recently in our local waters......
Speaking of that smoker I really should have borrowed it from you when I had the herring, my jerry rigged gas grill required too much attention.
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Go get um Sonny!
When can we expect the report?
:smt006
Pfffff, this guy Sonny :smt007. I pulled out my smoker cuz a him...gotta find sumpin' to smoke though...
You thinking he might catch so many you could get a couple of his extras? 🙂
Actually a little birdie told me some were picking up a flatty or two recently in our local waters......
Speaking of that smoker I really should have borrowed it from you when I had the herring, my jerry rigged gas grill required too much attention.
Good thing we understand little birdie language...I still love the idea of those saltwater monsters that they find in those 70-100 fow depth down yonder. I wouldn't mind a 22.7 #'er outta these here 18 foot waters though any day...let's find that bait wait for that slow bendo de flattymama...I didn't find a scrap of herring this year but I didn't try very hard...going live bait, swimbait and slow pitch for sure this year...see ya' on da wattah' :smt006
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Hi Sonny
I am not experiened with Adventure but replaced rudder line for our Hobie Oasis. I think Adventure might be running a heavier line. You can purchase just a line from a kayak shop or West Marine. 100 lb line is not strong enough. I noticed people are using the 2mm Robline Ocean 3000 Dyneema Line.
https://westcoastsailing.net/2mm-robline-ocean-3000-dyneema-line/ (https://westcoastsailing.net/2mm-robline-ocean-3000-dyneema-line/)
Take your broken line and try to get one with a similar size. Good luck.
p.s. I am attaching a portion of Hobie Stowaway rudder manual which might be helpful. If you need the rest of the manual, just let me know.
Paul
Thanks for the link Paul. I ordered 50ft of this 3000-Dyneema-line.
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Got the new rudder line today and tried to fixed the rudder up/down lines but ran into problem reaching the handle assembly mounting hole to reassemble it. I can't reach it from both front and back hatches. Any tips or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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A long handled or extended ratcheting socket wrench with a hex headed socket, you can get a magnetic bit to hold the bolt and reach it perhaps. I have yet to get a Hobie so not sure.
My hard to reach repairs on the Stealth typically involve sting and some kind of trolly system to remount any mounting points that are accidently removed or damaged on my hull.
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I use a mirror somewhere to give me some vision of where I’m headed on these blind hopeful adventures… :smt006
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I have used a trash picker as an arm extension to reach places.
Paul
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I have used a trash picker as an arm extension to reach places.
Paul
Thanks Paul. I have one similar to the one in the picture. Will give it a try.
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Kinda funny, my first trip after reading and commenting in this thread, my rudder cable developed a fray and caused some pretty awful steering as the fray interacted with the housing.
So, I ordered some fresh cable and replaced it last night. I went with this cable:
49 Strand Stainless Steel Black Vinyl Coated Cable Kit 30' with 10 crimps https://a.co/d/2oGqP3K
Seems like a significant upgrade over the standard stainless bike brake cable it was originally assembled with. This stuff has a super slick plastic coating that glides in the cable housing very smoothly. Package came with enough cable for me so replace again, but hopefully it holds up for a while.
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I use magnets to pull stuff around in the hull.
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I use magnets to pull stuff around in the hull.
Thanks for the great idea Mark.