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Topic: Rudder steering line repair issue  (Read 1230 times)

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My Adventure rudder steering line broke and need to be fixed or replaced.   Anyone replaced these lines with different on the shelves lines?  Need to fix this for my next fishing trip this week.   Thanks for any suggestions or tips.
« Last Edit: March 13, 2024, 11:09:48 PM by Sailfish »
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Hope this helps Sonny
https://youtu.be/yJA_fgreoac?si=sybeEJu4px6p218d

Thanks for the links Mel.  Fortunately the line broke near the rudder so I can temporarily fix it by extending it with similar line that's strong enough.   Thinking about 100lb braid line but not sure if this will work.
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Hi Sonny

I am not experiened with Adventure but replaced rudder line for our Hobie Oasis.  I think Adventure might be running a heavier line.  You can purchase just a line from a kayak shop or West Marine.  100 lb line is not strong enough.  I noticed people are using the 2mm Robline Ocean 3000 Dyneema Line.
https://westcoastsailing.net/2mm-robline-ocean-3000-dyneema-line/

Take your broken line and try to get one with a similar size.  Good luck.
p.s. I am attaching a portion of Hobie Stowaway rudder manual which might be helpful.  If you need the rest of the manual, just let me know.

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Thanks Paul for the suggestion and illustration pictures.  I will try West Marine tomorrow to see if the have something that might work.
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Thanks Paul for the suggestion and illustration pictures.  I will try West Marine tomorrow to see if the have something that might work.

If you don't find one, please let me know.

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Thanks Paul for the suggestion and illustration pictures.  I will try West Marine tomorrow to see if the have something that might work.

If you don't find one, please let me know.

Thanks for the offer Paul.  Searching the web for specifications of the line and found the following:  strength = 700lb, brand is Spectra braid 12 strands, diameter = 1.75mm, cost is 52 cents/ft.  Will order some but need something for temporary quick fix to go fishing on Tuesday  :smt003
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Found a better vendor with lower cost/ft  :smt003
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Here is my temporary repair instruction.  Hope this will help you go fishing this week.
If I get to go fishing at Monterey, I will let you know and bring some lines for you.  I carry spare lines and tubes as a part of my emergency bag.

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Breaks near the rudder are the easy ones to fix!  They are connected by loops and knots to the internal cords.  See my rudder line replacement https://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=54510.msg614512#msg614512
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As far as what to use to replace it, I've used a lot of things but wouldn't recommend braid. What I used last time is a tent guy line  :smt005 But Nowherman's use of dyneema you can buy at West Marine is probably an improvement over the hobie dacron. https://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=98151.msg1112099#msg1112099
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I'm not in a hobie, so don't know if this would work for you or not.

I saw my rudder cable was starting to fray, and during the investigation, discovered that the cable inner and put housing were both significantly longer than the kayak needed. I trimmed about the same amount off both the inner and outer, pulled everything nice and tight and secured. Good to go!

Again, not sure if that would work for you or not. I have the 11ft kayak in a model range that goes to 14ft, and Pelican uses the same rudder kit for every model, so my cables were pretty long.
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Thanks for all the tips and suggestions guys.  Over the years, I've learned that NCKA has the greatest technical resources!  :smt008
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Able to temporarily fixed the broken steering line with some "extra" lines from others  :smt003. Thanks again guys.
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I used 2.5mm amsteel, which is braided dyneema (same as spectra):

https://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=98151.msg1112099#msg1112099

It's held up well on my AI...
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