But what about 2012 and 2013? That’s the most confusing part to me.

Petitioning to have the bag limit reduced so that you can fish year-round doesn't seem like a winning deal. Most of the winter months aren't very fishable anyway. Cold, windy, swelly, rainy weather. Then, come summer, you'll be stuck with a reduced limit. Seems like shooting yourself in the foot to me.

Quote from: Malibu_Two on June 06, 2023, 12:52:21 PM

Quote from: NowhereMan on June 06, 2023, 11:07:52 AM

How about limits? I talk to boaters with commercial licenses licenses at the SC harbor pretty regularly. I was under the impression that they have a limit of 5 halibut, whereas on NCKA someone posted that there are no limits. I don’t know where to look for that info online…

Definitely no limit for commercial halibut. A small commercial fisherman was posting on NextDoor a while back selling his halibut. One day he alone caught 79 fish.

I find it hard to believe that anyone could catch 79 halibut hook-and-line in 1 day...

At the heart of the problem is the globalization that allows many commercial fishing industries to sell out of state and out of country. I think one of the principles of balance of nature is that a given local fishing area can not support the whole world.

I totally agree. There are small-time commercial guys - commercial kayakers even - who ship overseas.

I've always said this same thing about the Central Valley. We grow way too much food there, so much that our rivers are running dry and our once-mighty salmon runs are going extinct. One state shouldn't be feeding the whole world or even the whole country.

Perhaps there should be some sort of tax on exporters/producers and the cost goes higher and higher the further a food product is shipped from its source? Maybe there already is.

In the end, all of these problems exist because we have too many humans, but that's another problem altogether.

I'm pretty sure its official as of June 1. MY Question is "what about commies?"  the price for halibut bottoms out at like 6 to 7 a lb and its already there yet ppl still fishing and converting their setups to commie.  They will scrape whatever we don't. they are open year round and have no quota.  we're attacking this from the wrong side i think. I will harvest 10 less fish this year due to the change. a commie will catch an extra 10 fish a day because of this lol

That's why I said "too little."
I agree, commercials should have a reduction as well. But the recreational fishermen are no drop in the bucket.
I don't disagree with this change, I just think it should apply to more.

These guys are absolute bottom-of-the-barrel trash. Total losers. And so so stupid, too. Imagine bringing in a 20" salmon that weighed 10lbs and somehow thinking nobody would get suspicious.
Jail time aside, their reputations are ruined forever, thanks to the viral video.

Great idea. This would work well with head scraps. I usually bake the heads of halibut, lings, and cabezon and get a surprising amount of meat. Good for soups and patties.

Quote from: charles on April 15, 2023, 04:58:43 PM

I don't think it is the number of fisherman that determine the overall catch but it is the efficiency most anglers have now. GPS mapping , color depth finders, the ability to mark and return to spots. In the past, offshore fishing depended on reading rock outcroppings, the color of water, and accepting that current with fog would push you off a hotspot into dead zones and one had a hard time re-locating where the fish were. We have entered the electronic era and it is easier to catch fish so yes, reduce limits to whatever makes fishing sustainable.

Plus one. Today if a fisherman is on a hot bite and conditions are just perfect he can pull the cell phone out of the pocket and relay that information to a friend or family member and from that friend or family member it gets passed on again to a couple more people in the blink of an eye.
In the not so long ago past you would have to wait till you were at a payphone to relay that information which could be at the end of that day's fishing or the next morning .
Today everything's real time kind of like watching the news it is not recorded from a couple hours ago or from yesterday like it was 25 or 30 years ago.

Everyone should read The Unnatural History of the Sea by Callum Roberts. In it he discusses how as fish have become harder to catch, our fishing methods have become more efficient, so we still catch (more or less) the same numbers of fish even though populations are declining, leaving us unaware of the damage we are doing to our fisheries. He also covers "shifting baselines," the phenomenon by which we normalize declining fish populations so much that we've forgotten how productive our fisheries were 10, 20, 50, 100 years ago, etc. It's very interesting. Highly recommended.

https://www.amazon.com/Unnatural-History-Sea-Callum-Roberts/dp/1597265772/ref=sr_1_1?hvadid=241643588059&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9031954&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=15461084735029071704&hvtargid=kwd-4045349625&hydadcr=3233_10393018&keywords=the+unnatural+history+of+the+sea&qid=1681648740&s=books&sr=1-1#customerReviews