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Topic: Penn GTi 320 high speed 4.5:1 reel - schematic, parts?  (Read 2186 times)

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    I was given one of these and am looking for the schematic, I've seen some that look like they might be close, but not the exact one - does anyone know where I might locate one?
    Also, any source of parts for it might be helpful - I bought some carbon fiber drag washers (and the Shimano drag grease) the other day in Fisherman's Warehouse that I was told would fit, but it would be nice to have a backup in case they don't.
 
BSteves mentioned this reel in a post of a couple of years ago, maybe my message to him didn't get through.  Thanks


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penn HT-100 drag washers ARE carbon fiber.  so I think you only needed to grease them.

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Hey, thanks for the quick response!  I looked for an hour or so and didn't find that schematic. 


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Hey, thanks for the quick response!  I looked for an hour or so and didn't find that schematic. 
Tom look in the bottom left corner of the site,info. box, schematics is in red letters.


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I can't find the "site information box" and none of the windows I can open have anything in red at the bottom except REI ads,
 BUT, I got the schematic, opened up the reel, greased the graphite drag washers, and observed that one bearing appears to be crimped into the Bridge Assembly, so I didn't take it out (it looked brand new inside the reel) and try to take the shield off and pack grease in it.  I just put a gob of grease on the top.  The other bearing seems pressed into the single-piece graphite (?) case, it too looked new and I just daubed the outside of the bearing with grease. 
   Would I have been better off taking those bearings out (even if it meant grinding away the crimps holding the one)taking them apart and packing grease in them?  It looked like I was going to have to ruin them to do preventative maintenance!   


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taking bearings out can be tricky. you can damage them easily. they are not made to take loads from the side. the shields dent easily.

generally you have some kind of tool that goes into the inner race and pops them out.

you can be real careful with a small phillips screwdriver and slowly work them out bit by bit.

I would just order a second set of bearings. remove the shields on those and grease them. then when the others fail or lock up, pull them out, probably destroying them in the process. but who cares you have have new open greased ones to replace them.

It will take some serious use or dunkings to destroy the ones you have in there now.

My bearing experience is good from years of skateboarding. pretty familiar with sealed, shielded, greased, oiled, ceramic, 7 ball, 6 ball, 9 ball varieties,  :smt004.

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Thanks John, I was hoping for that kind of answer- I think I'll order some bearings and put them away for the day I really need to take the existing ones out.  Alan T has a nice post of the kinds of tools to get them out and open them up.  I just was surprised to see the one crimped in there - I could grind the crimps out and then probably get the bearing out, but I don't think I'll do that if I'm likely to get a lot of uses before it gets sticky in there, or until I do a sandy dunking. 


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Sounds like they did not expect the bearing to be replaced ever.
reasonable assumption for a reel fished from a boat, but kind of unlike Penn.

would have liked to see a picture of that crimped in bearing.

I have a tube of single shield ceramic replacement ambassadeur-sized bearings from
www.mikesreelrepair.com. (that website is a nightmare to navigate, I agree)
and a pair of spare anti-reverse roller bearings too.

I have had to replace a couple frozen spool bearings after dunking the reel when dealing with
a bad rod tip wrap or needing to re-thread the line through the guides on the water. I grease
the replacement ones when I put them in. With anything but the lightest lure, they still cast
fine, and less backlashes with a greased bearing anyways. have not had any of those seize up yet.

I also fished with a seized bearing a few times. You notice something is not quite right but generally
the friction involved is small enough that the reel still functions for anything but casting.

John

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