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Topic: Is fluorocarbon leader useful for surf fishing?  (Read 733 times)

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I dont think we ever used crimps, even with the steel leaders.  I wanna say it was always just a perfection loop.  Steel leaders have a tendency to kink up, i think we swit hed over to heavy heavy mono mid 90s on the advice of a local skipper.

If youre fishing the bay,  might be a good idea to stick to the sturgeon regs while fishing leooards, never know when an incidental will wander your way. 
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Can probably get away with 60lb but i like 100lb mono [for leopards].

I have KastKing mono leader in 50, 100, and 150#. The 50 feels relatively thin and flimsy, but easy to tie. The 100 has some heft but I can still tie (some) knots in it. I haven't tried working with the 150 yet, but I think it crosses over into pain-in-the-ass territory. I think the 150 might call for crimps instead of knots, so why not just make a steel wire leader.

I'll make my leopard rigs with the 100# mono.

I use 25lb mono for leopards and have never been bitten off. And I used to fish for leopards a lot. Use the 50 if you don't want to buy more line.





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If youre fishing the bay, might be a good idea to stick to the sturgeon regs while fishing leooards, never know when an incidental will wander your way.

I was thinking of the Bolinas lagoon, which should be sturgeon-free. Sturgeon hasn't been on my radar, so I haven't done even basic prep like buying a report card. If I run into one, it'll be random chance and I'll have to let it go (then come here and brag about it, of course).


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As far as Surf Perch,

If I have some spools and there is just a yard or two and don't want to toss it in the recycle bin .

Why not use it.

It's usually the lighter test any way but , I have used anything from 6# up to 25# flouro or mono  scraps .

Never have noticed any difference .
« Last Edit: January 11, 2018, 12:11:14 PM by Lir »
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A note for those who don't know seven gill sharks basically have a mouthful of razor blades, watch you fingers.

Yep! In this 2008 Chronicle article about tracking sevengills, a marine biologist working with the sharks confirms that "sevengills have the reputation of being snippy and snappy."


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Flouro sinks. Mono floats. No idea if the perch care, but Iíve always used mono.  Iím tempted to try both in the same hole at the same time and see if it makes a difference.


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I always use 6lb fluoro perch fishing.   Iíve been using the P-line Steelhead and Salmon fluoro in 6lb test for surfperch...and almost all freshwater fishing.  Prefer the sensitivity, low stretch, and quick sink rate of lighter fluoro. This stuff is best light tackle fluoro Iíve used.  Highly recommend it.  As far as perch are concerned they will take anything.


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All mono all the time, 30# for Cali halibut, perch and leaperd sharks works fine but might want something heavier in Bolinas lagoon (some fatty's in there).

Never fished for palegics and have terrible "luck" with trout so might try fluoro for those or if fishing clear tropical waters.
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Fluorocarbon lines cast shadows identical to a monofilament line on the bottom of the river.  Using it because it's "invisible" is drinking the Kool-Aid.
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As far as from the surf , think of it in these terms .

 How many times has someone seen plunkers with big ass surf rods with heavy Mono,  2-3 oz sinker or heavier using just a slightly less # Mono leader tied in a high - lo rig fishing for Stripers and by catching surf perch

Back in the day nobody went "lite" or "light"

As one person mentioned about wire, Ive seen a guy tossing those wire Crappie rigs and catching surf perch

As far as shadows ,any line will cast a shadow ;some just cast less .

 Could " Invisible" (marketing ploy) be a relative term based off line diameter- # test ,water clarity , salt vs fresh and light conditions ?

Thanks for the interesting inputs. Fun
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P.S. as someone new to fishing, but with some knowledge of sailing and climbing knots, you fishermen sure pick some hellish materials for your lines. Monofilament, spectra braid, fluorocarbon, and steel wire? Knot masochism is the only explanation.

That's why I've been twisting my own hemp leaders since weed became legal.
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P.S. as someone new to fishing, but with some knowledge of sailing and climbing knots, you fishermen sure pick some hellish materials for your lines. Monofilament, spectra braid, fluorocarbon, and steel wire? Knot masochism is the only explanation.

That's why I've been twisting my own hemp leaders since weed became legal.
Is there a Diamondback strain?
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P.S. as someone new to fishing, but with some knowledge of sailing and climbing knots, you fishermen sure pick some hellish materials for your lines. Monofilament, spectra braid, fluorocarbon, and steel wire? Knot masochism is the only explanation.

That's why I've been twisting my own hemp leaders since weed became legal.
Is there a Diamondback strain?

Naw, only staiva strains.
14' Necky Dolphin, fast and wiggly, no room for anything.
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