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2018 AOTY/DOTY Entry

Topic: Tides and visibility?  (Read 378 times)

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Get The Net

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Hey I was just looking at the report for Stillwater and the swell seems like it's very small, but the tide is just ripping, do you guys find that ride makes a big deal on viz? Because I don't know if it is worth heading out yet.


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This weekend, especially Sunday is looking good right now.

Rain runoff may effect the vis.
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You only need 1Â’ foot of Visibility to see the fish before shooting it.  Always better to see them further out but you can not always have perfect conditions.
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Get the Net is a Newb Spearo that is in JDOTY.

Trying to give him the best option available.
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Get the Net is a Newb Spearo that is in JDOTY.

Trying to give him the best option available.
Yes thank you for the help!


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I usually find high tides produce better viz...big tidal swings can affect it and the outgoing/bottom can be murkier for sure...

Looks to me like rising to a big high in AM so I would bet viz would be best in AM and then dropping from there...

Areas with more sand/sediment are affected more than spots with mostly rock...

I would say dive as much as possible, and keep track/take note of tides and how it relates to what you see under water so that you build up experiences/references/knowledge for the future.

Time underwater is ALWAYS good, and you can learn something each time you go out....

Good luck!!

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Get the Net is a Newb Spearo that is in JDOTY.

Trying to give him the best option available.
True Antonio.  I hope a family member has already gone over the safety related info and when not to go. 

Nothing in my statement was untrue.  So hopefully he didnÂ’t take the comment to mean you should go no matter what.  But like Jim said the more you go the better you will be able to predict conditions.  And even if you get it dialed in the visibility can be crap because of an algae bloom or upwelling. 

Have fun out there and be safe Get The Net.
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I would say dive as much as possible, and keep track/take note of tides and how it relates to what you see under water so that you build up experiences/references/knowledge for the future.

Time underwater is ALWAYS good, and you can learn something each time you go out....

Good luck!!

 :smt006

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Jim

Very sound advice and well worth your time to track as much information as possible.

What I started doing for my son was the following.

1. Take a screen shot of magic seaweed ghost trees for the day I was taking him out on https://magicseaweed.com/Ghost-Trees-Surf-Report/825/

This would have all the information swell ht, swell direction, interval, secondary swell info, wind direction and speed, tidal information, sunset and sunrise. (Thanks Jim for the link  :smt008)

The tide portion comes in handy for launching and landing there so you know if you will need to launch of the stairs or not. Or if there will be a beach when you come back in  :smt001

Also if there will be a lot of water being displaced while out OTW. All good info to know during your excursion and for future planning.

2. Go out, dive and have fun.

3. Write a detailed report and post it with pics.

4. Put all this information by dive site in a folder and rate the folder such as NCKA/Diving/SWS/ 11-15-17 SWS 5 stars

So now you would have a history with conditions, report and pics of your harvest that day. It may be a bit excessive but it is fun to look back and be able to remember that particular day with just a few clicks of a mouse.

Then in the future you will be able to answer your own question by experience with the data that you collected.


« Last Edit: November 15, 2017, 11:14:16 AM by Cabeza de Martillo »
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Great advice Antonio...

I'm sure if I was more disciplined with recording moon/tide/swell height and direction and period/wind I would be a much better and more productive diver...

For some species those factors seem to be key to when they "turn on"......

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One thing that's nice about forecasts.surfer.com is that it allows you to look back at what conditions were like in the past by clicking on the little calendar icon (circled in red on the screenshot). That way, if you don't have time to chronicle conditions before you head out, you can always go back and make notes on it when you have time. Or even better, when you don't have a chance to make it out, but get a report from your buddy, you can write notes on their dive too if you want even more data.

I think MagicSeaweed also allows you to look at historical data. Good luck!
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Wow thanks for all the advice!!! I am actually the first in my family to dive!! It kinda of spiked my interest after watching Mr. Russels videos and since I fish a lot like boat fish and surf I just kinda did it and fell in love! So this info is extremely helpful!!!!


 

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