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Fritz

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Ok. I'm new here. I don't own a boat. I'm here for advice before I plunk the cash on one.
So, in looking at all the boats I could afford, and talking to some friends that have fly fished out of yaks before, I have a question. How hard is line control to manage on a kayak in really life?
I'm really interested in the Jackson Mayfly, but it's kinda spendy.  And I am having trouble finding folks that actually use them and not just guys on YouTube regurgitating the PR lines from the brochure.
I'm not trying to ask 'what's the best kayak for me' cause I know there's too many variables, but how hard is fly line management on your decks and what are some of the things you guys are doing to keep a snag free existence.
We all know how much it sucks to blow a cast and look down and your line is wrapped around the ____________. 



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yakhopper

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I used to fly fish out of my trident
Occasionally the line would get wrapped on the hatch buckle, but replaced them with a bungee and never had another problem.
Lots of good boat choices out there,
Take your rod and demo as many as possible, then see which has the fewest obstacles to overcome.
Good Luck
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bryan

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Hey if you wanna try it out i got an extra boat i can bring out on a morning im in vacaville so grizzly or napa would be good and you can test iy. I have a couple boats with different styles so you can get a feel for what you like and not. Have extra pfd and all that too shoot me a pm if you wanna try it


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I've fly fished in the ocean in big wind from my kayak.
Pretty simple minus the wind.
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Tinker

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I fly fish - I only fish with a fly rod - from my kayak in fresh and saltwater.  Having a clean deck is a very good thing and if you look at the Mayfly, it has all kinds of bling and doo-dads that will grab your fly, your leader or your line every chance they get.

You can expect to have twenty to thirty* feet of line, plus six to eight feet of leader, out of the rod when you cast and if you flub the cast or need to lay it down without casting, you want as little as possible on the kayak itself.

I like pre-2017 OK Tridents - they spoiled the 2017's for me - but there are others.

If you're going to fish with a fly rod only part of the time, you'll simply need to learn how to be more graceful than me around the add-ons on your kayak.

* I like to use 18' of T18 and leave a couple of feet of running line out of the tip top.  Most integrated lines have a 30' head.  Either way, it's a lot of line to keep from getting wrapped around this or that or caught under a gear track or wrapped around a drive pedal...
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surf12foot

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What Tote said. You just need to be more aware your area in your kayak.
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Fritz

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Yeah. Ok got it.
I went to Clavey today in Petaluma and looked at some of theirs.
The most stripped one I saw that would work in the OT Predator MX. The only thing it has is foot pegs. I was thinking I could make a shroud for them.
Or just bring a stripping basket...  I'm sure there's a solution. And there's no perfect boat for every situation.
The advice about being aware of your surrounding is well heeded. I've fouled a lot of casts by not heeding that single rule. You can double haul till the cows come home but if you're standing on your line...


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Tinker

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I didn't intend to suggest a completely clean deck was essential, but less stuff does help.

I've run in to aggravations when flubbing a cast, after landing a fish, and when changing flies - whenever I have line laying around a bit more carelessly than I would normally, and there's a NWKA member who'd happily tell you how many times I've had to chase him down and beg him to free my fly from the bow rigging.  YMMV.

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surf12foot

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I stripping basket will help or even a towel laid over your legs can help out a lot. At first it will be total chaos but over time and the more you fly fish from the kayak the chaos will slowly go a way. By the way it wasn't so much as freeing the fly from the bow rigging as to Tinker just wanting to now what that special fly was that was putting the hurt on the fish.
Scott