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Topic: Is it time to reduce Rockfish limits?  (Read 5329 times)

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Hey Vic,
Just windering if u know how to boil water?!?


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My Bad on the water thing... couldn't resist

Back on track, Dave, less is fine with me,
I never seem to get limits anyway so 7 is OK.
I do remember 5 yrs ago when I started ocean kayak fishing, catching those
 Big Ft Ross blacks(20 in plus) on light tackle, that was a blast!
I havn't caught those in 2 yrs ....???

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Scott ya I feel the same way. Watch out they might throw a toaster at you for agreeing with me. :smt003


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Back on track, Dave, less is fine with me,
I never seem to get limits anyway so 7 is OK.
I do remember 5 yrs ago when I started ocean kayak fishing, catching those
 Big Ft Ross blacks(20 in plus) on light tackle, that was a blast!
I havn't caught those in 2 yrs ....???

I don't think a 2 year window or a 5 year window is good enough to draw any long term trends.  How many times a year did you fish in that time frame?  How often did you encounter those 20 in blacks?   What about numbers of fish?  Are you catching the same number of fish, or less.  Short term variations in distribution could very well explain your experience.  So many variables ...

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They are in Trinidad.  We are catching huge black rf there right now.  I have caught more black rf this year in trinidad than in any year since the 90s and more 20+" rf than ever.  I also had one trip this year where I caught 10 canaries and 8 blacks along with a smattering of other rockfish.  That had never happened before in any year I fished trinidad, which I've been doing for over 20 years.

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Sonoma county especially Fort Ross gets private boats, kayaks, party boats , scuba divers and free divers, and I understand up north the kelp is still healthy too.
Do you get all that types of craft on the reef you fish at Trinidad ?
Refresh my memory 3/4 years ago we had fat abalone they were healthy and we had kelp beds in Sonoma too. last year it was gone no kelp, abalone started to skinny out this year kelp looks like scorched earth under water abalone starving dead shells showing up so the ecosystem can change in 3 years who knows maybe even less.
Hold the toasters please...

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Yes. It gets pretty heavily used.
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Everyone slams me for asking this but how is the kelp up there out of Trinidad?


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Everyone slams me for asking this but how is the kelp up there out of Trinidad?

It's slowly recovering. Probably about 25% of "normal". There's still tons of purple urchins but there are also a lot of starfish and sea stars now. I think those hold the key to kelp recovery.
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2017 Oregon bottomfish closure is imminent.  Overquota on black rockfish.  I have 3 unrelated confirming sources, seems really credible even though I don't really want to believe it.  Expect announcement soon.
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It appears ODFW may have to drastically reduce next year's quota, too.  This could last a while.


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That will teach me to sing the praises of oregon's management of groundfish. Everyone lol@crash now. brb eating some crow.
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2017 Oregon bottomfish closure is imminent.  Overquota on black rockfish.  I have 3 unrelated confirming sources, seems really credible even though I don't really want to believe it.  Expect announcement soon.
Would that mean a closure to all bottomfishing, or just closure of black RF retention?
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2017 Oregon bottomfish closure is imminent.  Overquota on black rockfish.  I have 3 unrelated confirming sources, seems really credible even though I don't really want to believe it.  Expect announcement soon.
Would that mean a closure to all bottomfishing, or just closure of black RF retention?

Word is closure of all bottomfishing. There is an internal email that went out this morning that gives details. I'm trying to find a copy of it leaked somewhere. It would be nice if ODFW got out ahead of all the rumors sometime very soon.
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2017 Oregon bottomfish closure is imminent.  Overquota on black rockfish.  I have 3 unrelated confirming sources, seems really credible even though I don't really want to believe it.  Expect announcement soon.
Would that mean a closure to all bottomfishing, or just closure of black RF retention?

Word is closure of all bottomfishing. There is an internal email that went out this morning that gives details. I'm trying to find a copy of it leaked somewhere. It would be nice if ODFW got out ahead of all the rumors sometime very soon.

Flatfish to remain open?

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2017 Oregon bottomfish closure is imminent.  Overquota on black rockfish.  I have 3 unrelated confirming sources, seems really credible even though I don't really want to believe it.  Expect announcement soon.
Would that mean a closure to all bottomfishing, or just closure of black RF retention?

Word is closure of all bottomfishing. There is an internal email that went out this morning that gives details. I'm trying to find a copy of it leaked somewhere. It would be nice if ODFW got out ahead of all the rumors sometime very soon.

Flatfish to remain open?

-Allen

Yes.

4K lbs of south quota (out of 10k total) was moved to central inshore a couple weeks ago and there's still 14k of all depth remaining for halibut. South is getting screwed bad.
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