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Those waders will get you in trouble.
My plan is to ditch the waders while in the water.

Sorry, DB, but I'm not reading you here.  Are you saying you'll take the waders off once you're in the water if it comes to that?
Might as well cut the feet off and wear dive boots if you'd ditch the waders at least the water has an exit as you try to yard yourself out of the water


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You don't simply wear a drysuit, you cover your insulating layers with the drysuit.

So when you're in the water for 5, 10, 15 or 30 minutes or more you're confident that no water gets in your drysuit?  Congratulations - your drysuit is in better shape than my 3.

...and I don't agree that poly layers under a drysuit are enough for cold water.
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I should of looked here before I bought these waders. Its clunky but I stay dry and warm.

https://www.amazon.com/Hodgman-Mackenzie-Cleated-Nylon-Boot-foot/dp/B00PCAHIFS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485322905&sr=8-1&keywords=hodgman+mackenzie+waders


I didnt even think of getting a wet suit because I didnt want to get wet at all...

Those waders will get you in trouble.  Here's a true story from last year. 

2 kayakers fishing in the ocean decided to head in because conditions were getting nasty.
1 kayaker wearing waders gets hit by a wave goes overboard and his yak turns over.
His waders gets filled with water, he uprights his kayak, tries to get back but fails because to extra weight of water inside his waders and exposure to cold water.
Tries 2nd time but is now exhausted and out of strength and fails 2nd self rescue attempt.
His buddy could not help and calls the USCG, Mayday.
USCG sends Helo and DFW sends a patrol boat. DFW boat deploys inflatable to rescue kayaker.
DFW inflatable helps kayaker and tows him back to launch place.
Paramedics and Fire Dept. were waiting at the beach to check rescued kayaker.  He is in good shape.


Thanks. I thought about that scenario the other day. My plan is to ditch the waders while in the water. Probably easier said than done, I must admit.

Dude! No waders! Don't be that guy  :smt009

Also, in doing this you can possibly put someone else's life in jeopardy while they are trying to save yours.

Safety first


Edit: I see where you say you'll be using a wetsuit instead. Good for you  :smt001

But instead of deleting my original post. I'm leaving it up for anyone else that may have the same idea.
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I should of looked here before I bought these waders. Its clunky but I stay dry and warm.

https://www.amazon.com/Hodgman-Mackenzie-Cleated-Nylon-Boot-foot/dp/B00PCAHIFS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485322905&sr=8-1&keywords=hodgman+mackenzie+waders


I didnt even think of getting a wet suit because I didnt want to get wet at all...

Those waders will get you in trouble.  Here's a true story from last year. 

2 kayakers fishing in the ocean decided to head in because conditions were getting nasty.
1 kayaker wearing waders gets hit by a wave goes overboard and his yak turns over.
His waders gets filled with water, he uprights his kayak, tries to get back but fails because to extra weight of water inside his waders and exposure to cold water.
Tries 2nd time but is now exhausted and out of strength and fails 2nd self rescue attempt.
His buddy could not help and calls the USCG, Mayday.
USCG sends Helo and DFW sends a patrol boat. DFW boat deploys inflatable to rescue kayaker.
DFW inflatable helps kayaker and tows him back to launch place.
Paramedics and Fire Dept. were waiting at the beach to check rescued kayaker.  He is in good shape.


Thanks. I thought about that scenario the other day. My plan is to ditch the waders while in the water. Probably easier said than done, I must admit.
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Dude! No waders! Don't be that guy  :smt009

Also, in doing this you can possibly put someone else's life in jeopardy while they are trying to save yours.

Safety first


Edit: I see where you say you'll be using a wetsuit instead. Good for you  :smt001

But instead of deleting my original post. I'm leaving it up for anyone else that may have the same idea.
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Dude! No waders! Don't be that guy  :smt009

Also, in doing this you can possibly put someone else's life in jeopardy while they are trying to save yours.

Safety first


Edit: I see where you say you'll be using a wetsuit instead. Good for you  :smt001

But instead of deleting my original post. I'm leaving it up for anyone else that may have the same idea.
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hahah yea wetsuit fits so Im good to go.


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+1 on the wetsuit.  it sucks ass when it rains though.  a wet wetsuit out of water sucks. 

i do know some who use waders,   apparently when taking a dip, it compresses  pushing all the air up, and doesnt really let water in because the top of it may be above water.  i dont advocate for the use of waders, but thats what  i was told.

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I use waders duck hunting. More comfortable in the water than a wetsuit and booties when putting out decoys and standing in water for hours. I do cross deep water. I know the risk, and I am ok in those specific conditions. Out fishing I wear a farmer john, and always a pfd.
I have dumped in waders, it sucks. You don't want to be that guy...
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You don't simply wear a drysuit, you cover your insulating layers with the drysuit.

So when you're in the water for 5, 10, 15 or 30 minutes or more you're confident that no water gets in your drysuit?  Congratulations - your drysuit is in better shape than my 3.

...and I don't agree that poly layers under a drysuit are enough for cold water.

Send yours into Kokatat to get it inspected.  Dry suits are supposed to be DRY suits   :smt003

I was once a Coast Guard swimmer, wearing a dry suit over polypropylene base layers, and that makes me absolutely confident that my base layers under my properly fitted dry suit will keep me warm for a lot longer than 30 minutes in 40° water.  Just sayin' and DAMHIK.

No offense was intended.  Different strokes and all that.
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If you can afford a dry suit, get one. Otherwise, a wetsuit will do just fine. (Preferably with a relief zipper).

I started with a wetsuit and moved to a drysuit so I could stay warm, dry, chaff-free, and comfortable during LONG days of salmon trolling.


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So when you're in the water for 5, 10, 15 or 30 minutes or more you're confident that no water gets in your drysuit?  Congratulations - your drysuit is in better shape than my 3.

...and I don't agree that poly layers under a drysuit are enough for cold water.
I snorkel and spearfish for pike in Montana while wearing a drysuit with a dry glove system and a neoprene hood.  I start in the spring when the water is in the high forties, spearfish through the warm water in the summer, and continue as the water gets cold into October.  I typically spend about 6 hours in the water in a day of spearfishing.  I layer up enough clothing under my drysuit to stay warm even after many hours in the water.  At the end of the day, I can drive home in the clothing I was wearing under my drysuit.  So I can say that a drysuit will keep you dry for many hours in the water, and if you wear enough clothing under it, it will keep you warm for many hours in the water.

I used to spearfish in the mango Kokatat Goretex drysuit which I also use for whitewater kayaking and kayak angling.  I'd wear a 3-D camo suit over it so the bright color wouldn't scare off pike.  Now I spearfish in a black OS Systems stream count drysuit.  They both work very well.





Drysuits used for kayak fishing can get leaks from the spines and teeth of fish, particularly if you let fish give you lap dances.  The leaks can be hard to find.  If your dry suit leaks, send it back to the manufacturer for repair.  It will be money well spent, and a lot less expensive than buying a new drysuit.  Then, stop doing lap dances with fish.
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