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2017 AOTY/DOTY Entry

Topic: Red Cebezon?  (Read 1558 times)

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Cabbie for sure. Here is one that was caught in Carmel Bay on one of the rockfish survey trips.


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The amount of people here who couldn't immediately tell that was a cabby is kind of unnerving.
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Haha...Sorry for the late response...
Yes, 100% Cabezon.
Easiest clue is the big head, thick body, & little flaps (cirrus) over the on the eyes and nose.
The color can different all the time.
Greenlings have smaller head, mouth & compressed body.
Also, Greenlings family; Hexagrammidae has multiple lateral lines.


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The amount of people here who couldn't immediately tell that was a cabby is kind of unnerving.

Goal achieved.  :smt044 :smt044 :smt044
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I never said it wasn't Cabby ...all I did was show photos for comparison  , why all the "I told you so "crap  ..as far asking someone in the field why not ,that's what they're there for  .

Some will learn by using the thread , some by catching one ,some will make mistakes , some won't .

The callousness is a shame ,OG's have an opportunity to teach ;instead choosing to criticize  :smt012

Nobody was born with this knowledge gotta learn somewhere .

Ok have at it ...
Not at all criticizing.  I have sent pictures to specialists in the field who you would think would instantly know all the species located off our coast.  I was trying to learn more about the rock fish off our coast.  I usually get well, it looks like or could be.  But rarely they will positively ID a species. 

It's all good info and some will learn from these types of posts.  All I was trying to say was the more you catch or shoot the easier species Identification becomes.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2016, 05:14:42 PM by DG »
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I never said it wasn't Cabby ...all I did was show photos for comparison  , why all the "I told you so "crap  ..as far asking someone in the field why not ,that's what they're there for  .

Some will learn by using the thread , some by catching one ,some will make mistakes , some won't .

The callousness is a shame ,OG's have an opportunity to teach ;instead choosing to criticize  :smt012

Nobody was born with this knowledge gotta learn somewhere .

Ok have at it ...


Man you went and asked around and googled images and did a bunch of homework. Ain't nobody criticizing that.

I've told the story before of a DFW fish counter mistaking a gopher for a copper at shelter cove. Guy still took a bunch of pictures fs and got it right though. That's all anyone can ask or expect really.

It's just more important here to get it right because the cabbie is probably short and we don't want folks getting tickets.


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I never said it wasn't Cabby ...all I did was show photos for comparison  , why all the "I told you so "crap  ..as far asking someone in the field why not ,that's what they're there for  .

Some will learn by using the thread , some by catching one ,some will make mistakes , some won't .

The callousness is a shame ,OG's have an opportunity to teach ;instead choosing to criticize  :smt012

Nobody was born with this knowledge gotta learn somewhere .

Ok have at it ...


Vic,

I'm sorry if the way I posted came off as callous or criticizing...I was just kidding around and thought my posts of the identifying characteristics of a cabbie, the picture I posted of the DFW chart showing cabbies vs greenling, and texting Amadeo and posting his response were a pretty good attempt at teaching combined with getting the opinion of a well known expert in the field of Fish ID...

For the past five years I have had to verify every single fish entered as cabbie or greenling in DOTY (and did a few years for AOTY as well), and this time spent looking at pics of these fish (in addition to countless hours looking at them underwater in all different shapes/sizes/color variations) made this one a no brainer for me and I really was just trying to make sure people got it and didn't make it harder than it had to be by thinking about hybrids or confusing the ID etc...

Anyway, I apologize again if my posts came off as harsh...was just kidding around.

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http://doty.norcalkayakanglers.com/catches/1283

Here is a rock greenling.  No way.

+1.

The oversized fleshy pec fins, mouth, and cirrus on snout and above eyes all scream cabbie...like this...CABBIE!!!!

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Another great way to tell cabbies vs. greenling OTW if there is ever any doubt is that cabbies have no scales...greenlings have very small and rough scales...if you touch it and it's rough its not a cabbie...if you touch it and it is smooth it's not a greenling.

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