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Topic: roll the scupper pro?  (Read 1247 times)

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pmmpete

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I have 32 years of whitewater kayaking experience, so I know how to roll a sit-inside kayak. And I've set up both my 13' Trident and my 13' Revolution with thigh straps.  However, I've never tried rolling up one of my sit-on-top kayaks, and I'm sure it's a challenge, due to the width of most sit-on-top kayaks and the height of their seats.  It seems easier just to bail out, flip the kayak upright, and climb back on top.

I think that developing a solid low brace and high brace is real important both in sit-inside kayaking and in sit-on-top paddle kayaking.  It's one of the first things I teach beginning whitewater kayakers.  If you have a good brace, you are way less likely to need a roll, and way less likely to get dumped off a sit-on-top kayak.  Judging from the many entertaining videos available on the internet of kayak anglers getting trundled while going through surf, it appears that many kayak anglers have pretty rudimentary paddling skills.  See, for example, the video at http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=13276.0 , where a kayaker who is paddling in towards a beach gets caught by a small wave, and instead of paddling and ruddering to surf the wave, or turning sideways and bracing into the pile, or back paddling to let the wave pass by, the paddler lets go of his paddle with one hand, and gets dumped right over.  I made some suggestions in that thread about how to learn a high and low brace at http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=13276.msg145861#msg145861 .  And I explained my theory about why Mirage Drive kayaks frequently get dumped while going through surf at http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=13276.msg178955#msg178955 .
« Last Edit: June 29, 2016, 08:24:47 AM by pmmpete »


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Cant roll. never could. never tried. I can roll over halfway though. That is documented. hehehe
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Hydrospider

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pmmpete,
 You have the equipment and apparently have the skill set. It would be great if the next time you have the prowler or revolution out, if you could give them a roll and share the technique that made you successful.
Please remember that documentation brings validity. Looking forward to your results.
I can really use the help

 Here is the alternative to thigh straps. The stirrups are on the boat that I need to have a solid roll with.
My time trying to roll the barges helps strengthen my skills on the "Strike".
« Last Edit: July 01, 2016, 02:57:49 PM by Hydrospider »


Hydrospider

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pmmpete,
Did you try rolling your kayaks with leg straps yet?



 

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