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Topic: Wrapping new guides for Ugly Stick Tiger Rod  (Read 3122 times)

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My Ugly Stick Tiger has a busted guide and a few that are old and corroded. I want to replace them myself to save $$$. Where can I order some quality guides (that won't break on first use) plus threads, epoxy, etc?
Any tips or suggestions?
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ive heard good things about mudhole.com, they primarily do rod building, necer used them myself, so dont really know, cameron


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I have use the Ugly Sticks, and liked em just fine, but...

You can often find them on sale for 50 bucks or so, which means repairing them won't save you much money. So if you want to repair your rod for the experience of it, or to learn a new skill, or to figure out how to build your own rods, then go for it. It is fun.

Otherwise just pony up the fifty. you won't save much.
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Time for a new stick! You wanna borrow one of my Trevalas?
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Yeah, it just seems so stupid to throw away a perfectly good rod. Thanks, I'll look over my options.
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I wrap rods a few times a year and I would guess that by the time you buy 3 or 4 guides, rod finish, and thread, and pay for shipping you're going to spend at least $30. And, that's with cheap-ass guides.

$30 is still cheaper than $50-$60 though, so if you're tight on cash it's probably your best bet. However, if you have the cash I'd recommend buying a new rod and also re-wrapping the entire Ugly Stik just for fun/practice. You can buy quality guide sets for around $30-$40, finish for ~$7, and a few different threads for $3-$4 each. After you've wrapped your first rod you'll have the confodence to repair any fishing rod and maybe build an entire custom rod for yourself someday. Through Mudhole you could buy all the stuff to build your own custom jigging rod for about $100. Not only would it be just as good as a Trevala, you would also get that extra bit of satisfaction from catching fish on a rod you built.
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BTW, I use Mudhole, JannsNetCraft and Cabelas for most of my rod building supplies. I definitely would recommend Mudhole as the better of the three places.
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Why spend $30 on parts when someone will do it for $10. Don't know anyone in SF but these guys were recommended to me and I was very happy with the results @ $10 per guide

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I wrap rods a few times a year and I would guess that by the time you buy 3 or 4 guides, rod finish, and thread, and pay for shipping you're going to spend at least $30. And, that's with cheap-ass guides.

Any recommendations on good guides to buy? I really have a problem with just throwing out a perfectly good rod. Being able to repair and build things that are broken is an important skill.
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Come over (you live down the street?) I can show you how to choose a guide.  I also have all the rod wrapping stuff - wrapper, thread, epoxy, tip adhesive, etc.

-marvin

I wrap rods a few times a year and I would guess that by the time you buy 3 or 4 guides, rod finish, and thread, and pay for shipping you're going to spend at least $30. And, that's with cheap-ass guides.

Any recommendations on good guides to buy? I really have a problem with just throwing out a perfectly good rod. Being able to repair and build things that are broken is an important skill.


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I'd take shicken up on this offer. 
Without knowing the rod you're using and what you're using it for it would be tough to recommend a guide set. But generally I find you can't go wrong with any of the Fuji guides in terms of quality. Of course they range from super light high quality SiC titanium guides at $50 per guide, to their bottom rung hardloy guides at less than $1 each, which are still well built. The Fuji Hardloy's are what most UglyStik's are made with, if you have a version that uses guides with inserts. PacBay's higher end guides have been good for me, but their cheap stuff rusts quickly in my experience. REC is good stuff too, but probably nicer than I would put on an UglyStik.

-Jay

Come over (you live down the street?) I can show you how to choose a guide.  I also have all the rod wrapping stuff - wrapper, thread, epoxy, tip adhesive, etc.

-marvin

I wrap rods a few times a year and I would guess that by the time you buy 3 or 4 guides, rod finish, and thread, and pay for shipping you're going to spend at least $30. And, that's with cheap-ass guides.

Any recommendations on good guides to buy? I really have a problem with just throwing out a perfectly good rod. Being able to repair and build things that are broken is an important skill.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2011, 01:35:06 PM by Fishin-Jay »
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Too show my ignorence I'll ask the ?. Is there any reason he could not spiral wrap the stik? I?ve never fished one but understand it's suppsed to be a better way to fight a fish. Sorry for a semi- threadjack!
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Not sure what you mean by that.
Anyway, Marv set me up today. Thanks Marv!
I'll order that stuff tomorrow.
Andrew
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make sure you measure and record the position of the old guides before you remove them.  distance from tip to guide.


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Too show my ignorence I'll ask the ?. Is there any reason he could not spiral wrap the stik? I?ve never fished one but understand it's suppsed to be a better way to fight a fish. Sorry for a semi- threadjack!

Since Malibu_Two got taken care of I'll go ahead and answer Bigfoot's threadjack  :smt044

You could spiral wrap it, but you would have to remove the tip and reposition it, which isn't hard to do. The only thing spiral wrapping does is prevent the blank from twisting when loaded. A casting rod under load will actually twist until the tip is turned all the way around. Most of us don't notice it, especially kayak fishing where we aren't putting huge amounts of drag on our reels. In stiffer rods, with higher drag settings, you can run into a large amount of torque making it harder to hold onto the rod as it tries to twist out of your hands. IMHO, spiral wrapping is really cool and does make it so you have no rod torque under load, but it probably isn't necessary for most kayak fishing applications.
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