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Title: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: polepole on September 08, 2014, 07:19:59 PM
Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!

Yup, we busted a factory rook rack on our recent Kodiak trip.

http://www.kayakfishingmagazine.net/gear-guide/91-new-kayak-gear/1964-factory-roof-rack-fail.html

-Allen
Title: Re: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: G-Whiz on September 08, 2014, 07:23:26 PM
Those were not designed as load-bearing cross bars; they were more for prevent the load from shifting forward/backward on top the vehicle...
Title: Re: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: polepole on September 08, 2014, 07:24:51 PM
Those were not designed as load-bearing cross bars; they were more for prevent the load from shifting forward/backward on top the vehicle...

No shit.   :smt006

-Allen
Title: Re: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: G-Whiz on September 08, 2014, 07:26:17 PM
Those were not designed as load-bearing cross bars; they were more for prevent the load from shifting forward/backward on top the vehicle...

No shit.   :smt006

-Allen

 :smt044

Title: Re: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: Hojoman on September 08, 2014, 07:34:28 PM
Any damage to the roof?
Title: Re: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: otobepelagic on September 08, 2014, 08:03:48 PM
Hopefully better than this guy...
Title: Re: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: polepole on September 08, 2014, 08:56:12 PM
Any damage to the roof?

Other than the rack, I don't think so.  It sort of just settled in.  We heard it when it buster, although didn't realize it at the time.  Circled back to see what fell off, at at that point, noticed the break.

-Allen
Title: Re: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: bmb on September 08, 2014, 09:57:18 PM
My original one on the Subaru bent too. Went to aftermarket and never looked back.
Title: Re: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: SOMA on September 09, 2014, 08:33:41 AM
Those were not designed as load-bearing cross bars; they were more for prevent the load from shifting forward/backward on top the vehicle...

No shit.   :smt006

-Allen

 :smt044

Me too!
Title: Re: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: FishingForTheCure on September 09, 2014, 08:40:11 AM
Somehow I thought that the max working load for a set of factory cross bars is like 150#.  I bet the two yaks had a little something to do with that. :smt003
Title: Re: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: G-Whiz on September 09, 2014, 10:55:41 AM
Somehow I thought that the max working load for a set of factory cross bars is like 150#.  I bet the two yaks had a little something to do with that. :smt003

Some can, but most are not designed too...  It's not only the actual weight of the object, but also the amount of force/pressure that the wind puts on the bars; both downward and upwards....
Title: Re: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: polepole on September 09, 2014, 11:00:13 AM
Somehow I thought that the max working load for a set of factory cross bars is like 150#.  I bet the two yaks had a little something to do with that. :smt003

I think for this particular rack, the max spec is more like 100#.  Yes, we exceeded it.

-Allen
Title: Re: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: FishingForTheCure on September 09, 2014, 11:11:20 AM
We did some extensive testing of roof racks for a company at the last engineering firm I worked for.  The assembly bolted to it was only like 20# but on a bumpy road, windage, etc. it exceeded the operating strength of factory AND aftermarket racks when put into "testing" mode with g-force, etc....  The aftermarket rack companies, per calls to them, stated no higher than 150# but wouldn't expand if that was static weight or ????
Title: Re: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: Kardinal_84 on September 10, 2014, 09:22:39 PM
The residual damage. Just the paint. Better order the other foot. Argh...  (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/10/6c7b88f1f247d934513b24559fd96e99.jpg)
Title: Re: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: polepole on September 10, 2014, 09:45:49 PM
The residual damage. Just the paint. Better order the other foot. Argh...  (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/10/6c7b88f1f247d934513b24559fd96e99.jpg)

And that likely happened because we left it as is, other than moving the other factory rack forward and re-securing the kayaks.  The  broken rack just rubbed on the roof as we continued down the road!

-Allen
Title: Re: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: rockfish on September 10, 2014, 09:46:29 PM
Allen, I thought you would know better...  Makes a good piece for KFM tho...  ;)
Title: Re: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: polepole on September 10, 2014, 09:51:01 PM
Allen, I thought you would know better...  Makes a good piece for KFM tho...  ;)

I didn't know better.  Uh, yes, I did.  Well, I crossed my fingers and prayed.   :smt002  Actually the kayaks were secured enough, especially with a single yakima bar up front, that I certainly wasn't worried that the whole thing would break loose and fly down the highway.

Rudy was just unable to get the feet for the 2nd bar in time for our trip.  The joys of limited supplies for stuff like this in Alaska!  So we made due with what we had.  It did work for our needs and we got to where we wanted to, and back.  And yes, it made good for lessons learned!

-Allen
Title: Re: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: rockfish on September 10, 2014, 09:58:48 PM
Allen, I thought you would know better...  Makes a good piece for KFM tho...  ;)

I didn't know better.  Uh, yes, I did.  Well, I crossed my fingers and prayed.   ;-)  Actually the kayaks were secured enough, especially with a single yakima bar up front, that I certainly wasn't worried that the whole thing would break loose and fly down the highway.

Rudy was just unable to get the feet for the 2nd bar in time for our trip.  The joys of limited supplies for stuff like this in Alaska!  So we made due with what we had.  It did work for our needs and we got to where we wanted to, and back.  And yes, it made good for lessons learned!

-Allen


:)
Title: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: Kardinal_84 on September 10, 2014, 10:59:52 PM
It's ok. I bought it from my parents for 500 bucks after my truck threw a rod. Late forties and still mooching from the parents.

Can't even repaint professionally without doubling my cost. lol. Function over form. SUV still runs. Not a pretty vehicle but it's a primo tackle box!  Haha.

That's also my excuse for the "brilliant pink" reel. Dang that thing catches fish. GF is insisting I get my silver two speed avet sx serviced.
Title: Re: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: Sin Coast on September 15, 2014, 02:46:15 PM
That's why it's called a luggage rack!
Title: Re: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: ravensblack on September 15, 2014, 03:32:46 PM
When God said get in line for brains, did you think he said trains?   :smt044 :smt006  Then took the next one out of town.
Title: Re: Factory Roof Rack ... Fail!
Post by: Kardinal_84 on September 15, 2014, 04:05:06 PM

That's why it's called a luggage rack!

lug·gage
ˈləgij/
noun
suitcases or other bags in which to pack personal belongings for traveling.
synonyms:baggage; More
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Got it. I just need to stuff my kayaks into "bags" and I'm good to go!!!  Lol.

Maybe I'll just spend 30 bucks on another foot for a rack...kayak " bags" for an outback sound pricey AND a PITA!