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Messages - SanddabMan

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Fishing Pics / Re: Other flatfish
« on: June 19, 2017, 03:48:43 PM »
Sweet photos guys. Thanks for adding your insights. We're always out on the open flat bottomed ocean for flatties or in dense rocks for rockfish. Guess we'll have to try for some sand between the rocks. Thanks for sharing. That'll definitely give us a new challenge.

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Fishing Pics / Re: Other flatfish
« on: June 15, 2017, 08:10:09 PM »
Yes Matanaska, I pretty much fish exclusively in a kayak. We finally got a flat day so we paddled four miles out. We couldn't find them at 170 or 210, but around 190' it was pretty consistent. It feels really good to paddle off the deep water with a kayak full of fish. KPD, I actually caught my first sanddabs off of the HMB area years ago. One meal of those and I was hooked on flatfish. Seabird, we started out back then with small sabikis and then worked our way up to a size 4 or 2 hook and typically get sanddabs 10-11.5 inches on the bigger sabikis. One major trick I seem to catch more fish on than my neighboring boats is using Smelly Jelly's Crawfish or Procure's Flounder Pounder. In our area, sanddabs pick up at 150' and seem to be really good at around 180'. Cooked whole the sanddabs make a killer meal, pretty similar to the petrale. Any advice on finding rock or rex sole, matanaska? None of my buddies have landed them in a kayak (or even on a boat). Cen Coast, you have any advice on catching flounder?

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Fishing Pics / Other flatfish
« on: June 15, 2017, 06:21:32 PM »
The new regs on petrale sole have opened up an entirely new fishery. Not only did we tie into them on the first trip out, but it's opened up a discussion on how we might catch a bag of other less-sought flatties like diamond turbot or starry flounder. I've been fishing all my life and have never caught a flounder and have only seen two caught in Humboldt County. I'll add some sanddab photos when I get a chance. I love sanddabs, hence my login name. The petrales we caught a couple weeks ago ran up to 2.5 pounds and provided some exceptional table fare. Butter sole and CA halibut make fun fish to add to your list, but sanddabs and petrale are up there with Pacific halibut in quality. Anyone out there with other flattie experience?

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Fishing Pics / Re: A collection of NCKA wild animal pics
« on: May 12, 2017, 04:21:42 PM »
Blue Whale spouting off Trinidad.

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Safety First / Re: Physical Conditioning and Preparation
« on: May 12, 2017, 04:16:35 PM »
Yeah Str8FishiN, That reminds me of a couple times we were surfing in Humboldt and got caught in really unique rip currents that wouldn't let us get to shore like usual, along with a time we got 6 miles off Trinidad and the wind unexpectedly switched to a SE, right in our face. That wind put us hours behind our paddling plan. Darn glad I was in shape all those times.

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Safety First / Re: Physical Conditioning and Preparation
« on: May 11, 2017, 06:49:43 PM »
I forgot to mention surfing as another toning option. Back when I had time to surf I was in killer shape. Too many responsibilities to hit the waves much these days. I have to say I'm really glad I was in good shape both times I pulled off harrowing kayak rescues and helped a mom pull two drowning girls out of the Mad River!

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Safety First / Re: Water Safety Education for Kids
« on: May 11, 2017, 06:08:11 PM »
This is awesome P-Sherman! Thanks so much for sharing. We homeschool our kids and they spend a lot of time on the water duck hunting and fishing from kayaks. They love coloring so this will be a great way to emphasize safety...a big component of teaching them to respect and enjoy the outdoors.

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Safety First / Re: Unexpected Danger
« on: May 11, 2017, 06:04:05 PM »
I've attached a photo of the skate. Didn't get photos of the bloody mess due to 1st aid distractions. You can't see the wicked claws or claw vents in the photo; only when you look close at the beast in real life can you see what looks like little gill vents...don't get your flesh close to those!

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Safety First / Unexpected Danger
« on: May 11, 2017, 04:07:43 PM »
So the Audubon Fish book usually has a little symbol denoting venomous or dangerous for appropriate fish (triangle inside a circle). One year we were fishing for sanddabs and caught some nice Big Skates, so we each kept a 16-pounder for the table. There was no danger symbol in the book and I had never heard of anyone being hurt by a skate; only by stingrays of various sorts. We dispatched them, handled them, boated them. Got home and started to cut the meaty wings off when suddenly blood literally squirted on the wall followed by the sensation of dragging my hand down some razor wire! I looked at my hand and it was massacred! I learned "on-the-job" that skates have retractable Freddy Kruger claws toward the end of the top of their wings. As I processed the skate, I triggered the claws and they shot into my hand. By the time I got the computer to email my kayaking buddy, he'd beat me to the server trying to warn me of his bloody discovery. Take home lesson: watch out when handling new fish species.

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Safety First / Re: Apparently rockfish are venomous
« on: May 11, 2017, 03:59:46 PM »
This'll make me sound dumb, but I was young at the time. Pulled a massive quillback up on my poke pole and took several spines all the way through my hand. It curled up in a red hot ball and was paralyzed and inflamed until the next day and ached for a while. That was miserable. I've had a few rough days on kelp and grass rockfish off of Santa Barbara, as well.  I have a great fish grabber and have relied on nets, gaffs and harpoons since those times.

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Safety First / Re: Physical Conditioning and Preparation
« on: May 11, 2017, 03:54:09 PM »
That's a good idea, DG, on the diving. I'm not set up for it, but swimming and diving would be good across-the-body workouts. The martial arts system we train in is referred to as an internal system. It's much different than most of the gyms/systems you'll see around. It's a lot more like Tai Chi, just a little faster, so we've traditionally had a lot of older folks in the gym because they can go at their own pace and not tear something or get beat up. I've been hearing quite a bit of complaining from folks I used to kayak or duck hunt with as they hit their 60s and 70s, they just can't do it anymore. Then I've been noticing a few friends in their 70s who bike everywhere around town instead of driving and I seriously can't keep up with them at 43. They're in darn good shape. Granted they don't have a bunch of kids and the same workload I have. So that's why two nights a week at the gym allow me to make it several miles out to my sanddab beds. My dad is one of those who was starting to wear out, but now that you mention it, he got a membership at the local gym/pool and at 70 he's starting to get back in shape from swimming laps a few times a week, to the point where he can keep up with me. I'm interested to hear other ideas for those who can't get out on the ocean often enough to stay in shape for a big trip.

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Safety First / Physical Conditioning and Preparation
« on: May 11, 2017, 12:33:54 PM »
For some of you young'uns and kayakers with the liberty to hit the water often, this may not be such a big deal, but I haven't seen a lot of discussion on this topic. One of the near death rescues I pulled off years ago involved a guy who went kayaking when he was sick. He wasn't on his game, mentally or physically. While boating a fish he leaned over too far, capsized with his spray skirt off and one hatch open (and had peeled his wetsuit down to his waist due to warm weather!), and submerged both himself and his kayak. Sometime I'll try to post the whole story, but the point here is that he wasn't mentally or physically fit to be on the water that day, and I had to save his bacon. So to the point...I'm mid 40's, raising kids, career going nuts, high stress, no time for exercise. In my experience and knowledge, the ocean can eat you on a good day. On a bad day things can go full nightmare quickly. So you have to be on your game, or stay home and save it for another day. I'm sure there are a lot of suggestions out there, hence my starting this chat, but I figured I'd share a solution I came up with for my current life status. Last year I started working out at Paul Gale's Chinese Martial Arts Association in Arcata, doing Kung Fu. It's a lot better than jogging, treadmill or lifting weights, because it not only works your cardio, but works your muscles from head to foot with a ton of exercises that translate directly to paddling, peddling and fighting big fish. It's an internal martial art focusing on balance, posture and coordination as opposed to techniques and fighting. If you live in the area, drop by for a free month or even single workout to check it out. If you're out of the area and find yourself in my shoes, I can attest that a couple nights a week has helped me stay in good enough shape that I'll be able to jump back in the water if the wind ever dies down. Additional training that I've found very helpful is an occasional frolic in the surf with a sit-on-top kayak like and ocean kayak mailibu. Catch some waves, wipe out on a few, climb back on while getting tossed around, etc. You gotta plan for the unexpected headwind you'll sometime have to paddle against, or towing a crippled kayaker back to shore. Towing a disabled kayak was part of my second rescue on the ocean. Being in good enough shape to make it through rough water and help the guy back in his boat and then tow him in was critical. Hope this sparks some thought for those who are a bit out of shape like I was getting last year.

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General Fishing Tips / Re: Proper way to prep stingray?
« on: May 11, 2017, 09:25:20 AM »
Maybe this should be a seperate post, but a related topic is skate. We catch Big Skates out on the shallow side of the sanddab beds and they're mighty fine eating. They don't seem to ammonia up as bad as sharks, but it's a good idea to bleed them out. I bleed them in the kayak hold to avoid lots of blood in the water so whitey or Mr. Bull Sea Lion don't have any extra excuse to visit. Back home, we slice the meaty wings off and poach them (near boil without the bubbles of a rolling boil) skin-on, in water with a dose of white vinegar for acidification. Then you peel the skin off and you're left with these slabs of unbelievably tasty white meat that could easily pass for high quality crab meat. We usually keep the 10-20 pounders and let the monsters go.

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Introductions / Re: Introduction
« on: May 11, 2017, 09:13:31 AM »
Thanks for the warm welcome. Yeah KPD, depending on your coast, a couple miles out the flatfish are just waiting. I'm looking forward to scanning the website to see what other flatfish wisdom is around, and raising the bar this year with the petrale sole reg changes. So far we've boated Pacific halibut, California halibut, petrale sole, butter sole, sand sole and tons of sanddabs. My paddling crew is looking forward to figuring out how to catch petrale sole and starry flounder on a consistent basis. Now if this wind would just stop and work would slow down...

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Introductions / Re: Introduction
« on: May 09, 2017, 08:26:31 PM »
Thanks for the welcome. I'd been sea kayaking for a number of years when I read Deep Trouble...the take-home was that some guys that were a lot more badass on the water than me got their hind-ends kicked by unexpected conditions and almost got free tours of Davey Jone's Locker (one or two actually did), so I don't take chances and go prepared. That's what I love about what I see on this website. A lot of wisdom and caution.

As for the dabs, the only place I've ever done well for them was outside of the stretches of coast along Maverick's (north of Half Moon Bay) and from Mad River to Big Lagoon. I know they're elsewhere, but we've caught scanty few off of Eureka, the Cape, Orick or south of Half Moon Bay. We start picking them up at 120, but 150 to 180 they start loading your sabikis up. Not so glorious to show off to your fishing buddies, but hard to beat on the table. Then again, my wife's Asian and my kids eat the meat off the bones. No waste in our home! So you got it ryang85, eat 'em whole and you don't lose anything. Most folks say they're too small, but we mostly catch 'em about 9-11 inches. If you don't filet them, a couple make a pretty nice meal. The killer is to gut them and lay a few slices of ginger and green onion over them and steam in a tinfoil wrap. Then you make a soy-sauce, sugar, cilantro sauce and you'll make a lot of dinner friends fast!

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