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General => Fish Talk => Topic started by: Tez on November 22, 2017, 12:40:06 PM

Title: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: Tez on November 22, 2017, 12:40:06 PM
I was kayak fishing near SWN yesterday, when I noticed my light rockfish rod in the holder going bendo.  I picked it up and knew immediately it was something bigger than a rockfish, and also not a snag.  There were big, sure tugs coming from the other side, but whatever it was didn't run.  It would hold, then give a few strong tugs, then hold again...  My first thought was that maybe I hadn't noticed a rockfish on the small swimbait, and this might be a big hitchhiker ling.  It felt like playing tug-o-war with a pitbull.  I tried to fight it for a while, but eventually broke off.

I have really been trying to figure out what was happening on the other end of that line.  Was it a nice size ling holed up? Fish wrapped around a rock/seaweed?  Maybe a wolf eel anchored in it's den?  Octopus?

I'd like to hear if anyone has any ideas what I could have been battling, or maybe someone has experienced something similar?   
 
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: HamachiJohn on November 22, 2017, 02:33:23 PM
"Big tugs" you experienced usually end up being cabezons for me.  Feels like pulling up concrete, with a few runs/tugs that make your rod go bendo.  Probably a ling or cabezon that took your bait back to its hole and broke off at the rocks... or your line needs a better knot/tie next time? 
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: lucky13 on November 22, 2017, 02:37:20 PM
You hooked the bottom. Your kayak floats with the wave. When a wave rolls through your kayak rises, giving you a feeling that it is tugging on the other end. You will not win that battle  :smt003
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: Weimarian on November 22, 2017, 03:09:29 PM
I hate those bottom snags that trick you into thinking, Oooo monster!!! only to break off or worse pull up a sea anemone. Sure sign you hooked mother earth :smt005
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: MooMoo Outdoors on November 22, 2017, 03:21:10 PM
Loch ness!
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: Tote on November 22, 2017, 03:54:10 PM
You hooked the bottom. Your kayak floats with the wave. When a wave rolls through your kayak rises, giving you a feeling that it is tugging on the other end. You will not win that battle  :smt003

This^^^^^^^^^
Plus if you are wrapped around kelp you might get a little line slippage as the kayak rises with the swell maing it really seem like something on the other end is a monster fish.
Ask Rockfish about the monster Pac Hali he hooked into for over an hour at Shelter Cove.  :smt044 :smt044
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: DG on November 22, 2017, 03:57:47 PM
Shark


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Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: Tez on November 22, 2017, 04:19:40 PM


You hooked the bottom. Your kayak floats with the wave. When a wave rolls through your kayak rises, giving you a feeling that it is tugging on the other end. You will not win that battle  :smt003

This^^^^^^^^^
Plus if you are wrapped around kelp you might get a little line slippage as the kayak rises with the swell maing it really seem like something on the other end is a monster fish.
Ask Rockfish about the monster Pac Hali he hooked into for over an hour at Shelter Cove.  :smt044 :smt044

There is a good chance that this is what happened, but truly it was odd.  I have snagged rocks and kelp, etc. many other times before.  This time was unique, and something I have not experienced before.  These tugs were pretty random and not all in sync with the roll of the swell.  At one point I grabbed the line and put tension on it for a second, and it really did feel like a back and forth, with random pauses in between.  There is just that "feel" to the feedback you perceive with something on the line...BUT I am new to kayak fishing in the open ocean, so I cannot say for sure.   

Shark


 :smt003

Probably just tricked by a snag  :smt001 

Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: NowhereMan on November 22, 2017, 04:32:36 PM
Sea lion.
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: bmb on November 22, 2017, 04:50:17 PM
gopher rockfish
Title: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: DG on November 22, 2017, 04:58:26 PM

Probably just tricked by a snag  :smt001
Mention shark and now itÂ’s just a snag.  Makes sense to me.
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: Cabeza de Martillo on November 22, 2017, 05:17:57 PM
Kelpness Monster
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: Tez on November 22, 2017, 05:23:56 PM

Probably just tricked by a snag  :smt001
Mention shark and now itÂ’s just a snag.  Makes sense to me.

Sharks are always possible... I would have thought a shark would move around a bit?

Kelpness Monster
Probably!

Who knows...Great day on the water though. 
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: Cabeza de Martillo on November 22, 2017, 05:26:17 PM
Shark


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DG has shark nightmares and where's his shark shield attached to his ankle to bed  :smt044 :smt044 :smt044
Title: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: DG on November 22, 2017, 05:48:21 PM
DG has shark nightmares and where's his shark shield attached to his ankle to bed. 
I donÂ’t always turn it on.
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: Sharkie on November 22, 2017, 05:59:29 PM
harbor tuna!
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: Darius (Burong Isda) on November 22, 2017, 06:31:38 PM
I was fishing BH a few moons ago. Seeing big archs on my ff. I got hit on my line followed by another hit like a freight train, just run, put pressure on the reel as it feels like gonna smoke. Line just snapped like somebody use scissors to cut my line. Until today still makes me wonder. 😨
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: HamachiJohn on November 22, 2017, 06:44:00 PM
I was fishing BH a few moons ago. Seeing big archs on my ff. I got hit on my line followed by another hit like a freight train, just run, put pressure on the reel as it feels like gonna smoke. Line just snapped like somebody use scissors to cut my line. Until today still makes me wonder. [emoji32]
The landlord Bro...

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Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: Bigfoot on November 23, 2017, 06:58:44 AM

I have really been trying to figure out what was happening on the other end of that line.  Was it a nice size ling holed up? Fish wrapped around a rock/seaweed?  Maybe a wolf eel anchored in it's den?  Octopus?
   All of the above, all at the same time! Ya just never know.
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: NowhereMan on November 23, 2017, 08:26:37 AM
I was fishing BH a few moons ago. Seeing big archs on my ff. I got hit on my line followed by another hit like a freight train, just run, put pressure on the reel as it feels like gonna smoke. Line just snapped like somebody use scissors to cut my line. Until today still makes me wonder. 😨

Thresher shark...
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: Otter on November 24, 2017, 10:38:41 AM
I was fishing BH a few moons ago. Seeing big archs on my ff. I got hit on my line followed by another hit like a freight train, just run, put pressure on the reel as it feels like gonna smoke. Line just snapped like somebody use scissors to cut my line. Until today still makes me wonder. 😨


Sounds like WSB to me. Exactly how they hit and run.

Next time don’t thumb the spool. 😀

-Eliot
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: Bushy on November 24, 2017, 05:15:33 PM
I was fishing BH a few moons ago. Seeing big archs on my ff. I got hit on my line followed by another hit like a freight train, just run, put pressure on the reel as it feels like gonna smoke. Line just snapped like somebody use scissors to cut my line. Until today still makes me wonder. 😨

Thresher shark...


Sea Lion
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: Sin Coast on December 07, 2017, 10:14:42 AM
If you were fishing SW south, I'd say maybe a giant black seabass.
Octopus is a good guess too. Or large lingcod wrapped around some kelp.
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: ReelE on December 07, 2017, 10:37:26 AM
"Big tugs" you experienced usually end up being cabezons for me.  Feels like pulling up concrete, with a few runs/tugs that make your rod go bendo.  Probably a ling or cabezon that took your bait back to its hole and broke off at the rocks... or your line needs a better knot/tie next time?
I agree with you, last time I hooked into something that pulled "differently" at SW. At first I thought I had a snag so I kept pulling and reeling trying to break my "snag" loose with out snapping my line only to notice it was coming up little by little but still pulling down "heavy" like I was reeling in a kelp ball. When my kelp ball came to the top it had a face only a fisherwoman could love! :smt007 Awww, a Cabbie!!! Yummm! Smiles:
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: LoletaEric on December 07, 2017, 10:51:13 AM
Quote from: Tez
I was kayak fishing near SWN yesterday, when I noticed my light rockfish rod in the holder going bendo.

Interesting - do you deploy your gear and set the rod in a holder?
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: Tez on December 07, 2017, 01:39:48 PM
Quote from: Tez
I was kayak fishing near SWN yesterday, when I noticed my light rockfish rod in the holder going bendo.

Interesting - do you deploy your gear and set the rod in a holder?

It was just for a minute while I sat still to re-tie my heavier setup.  Figured I could have the light rod jigging in the water while I did that...  Earlier in the day, the same thing got me a nice copper.  Still not sure what I hooked or snagged that time, but it really did feel alive (and strong). 
Kelpness Monster
Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: AlexB on December 07, 2017, 02:44:06 PM
Quote from: Tez
I was kayak fishing near SWN yesterday, when I noticed my light rockfish rod in the holder going bendo.

Interesting - do you deploy your gear and set the rod in a holder?

It was just for a minute while I sat still to re-tie my heavier setup.  Figured I could have the light rod jigging in the water while I did that...  Earlier in the day, the same thing got me a nice copper.  Still not sure what I hooked or snagged that time, but it really did feel alive (and strong). 
Kelpness Monster
Good strategy! You can’t catch fish if you don’t have a line in the water!

Just keep in mind that you are only allowed to fish one rod at a time for rockfish/lings.

I’ve been fooled a handful of times.... The interaction of swells, currents, kelp, stretchy monofilament, rocks, etc, can REALLY feel fishy on the end of your line when in fact you’re just snagged.


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Title: Re: Hooked something big...maybe?
Post by: brdopry on December 07, 2017, 10:39:30 PM
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