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Kayak Fishing Zone => General Fishing Tips => Topic started by: clarrus on July 03, 2017, 10:35:45 PM

Title: Leaders
Post by: clarrus on July 03, 2017, 10:35:45 PM
Do you guys make your own or buy them.  Feel free to send me youtube video's of good leader making.  Not the Army kind though.
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: hightide on July 03, 2017, 11:46:21 PM
Make my own.  You tube have a bunch of tutorial.
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: NowhereMan on July 04, 2017, 09:23:46 PM
Make my own.  You tube have a bunch of tutorial.

+1

Most things I use are easy to tie, but the halibut (live bait) setup took a while to figure out (snelled hook with a treble stinger). The way that works he's for me requires 3 hands, but since I only have 2, I use both hands and one big toe. I doubt you'll find that one on YouTube...
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: Bushy on July 04, 2017, 09:54:48 PM
both hands and a fly vise.
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: Bushy on July 04, 2017, 09:55:08 PM
And sometimes my tongue for the loop.
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: SlackedTide on July 04, 2017, 09:58:50 PM
What target fish?
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: Dale L on July 05, 2017, 08:53:00 AM
A fly tying vise is like a god send for tying at home.

I've had one for over 50 yrs, hate to admit that, and like a dummy I had it packed away so deep that I never even thought about it til last year when I found it during a home remodel project.
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: Widgeon on July 15, 2017, 04:13:01 PM
Along the same lines....what do you guys store your pre tied leaders in? I bought one of those little binders at bass pro with the zip lock Baggie 'pages'. Works ok, but requires you to wind up the leader to fit in the Baggie...which can be kind of a pain to untangle, especially in a good swell. Any suggestions appreciated....
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: CptSloppywood on July 15, 2017, 04:37:20 PM
Pips leader keepers. Look em up. The best way to have leaders ready to use.
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: Tinker on July 15, 2017, 04:42:12 PM
Pips leader keepers. Look em up. The best way to have leaders ready to use.

And they come in colors!    :smt001
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: Fisherman X on July 15, 2017, 05:02:19 PM
I have used a couple different things -

One is the pool noodle method:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_jwI_V8R4-Y

And the one I currently use for rock fishing is a leader material spool. My leaders are 3' long with a duo-lock snap one one end and a barrel swivel on the other. I try to keep about ten spares on it. I wrap the first one on, swivel end first. When I get to the snap, I hook the next swivel eye on the snap and away with the next one. On the last one I double loop a rubber band on the snap and put it around the spool. And, I usually have some leader stock still on the spoil, in case I use up all the pre-ties, there is something left.
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: CptSloppywood on July 15, 2017, 06:00:24 PM
I tried the pool noodles method. The pips leader keeper is the route you should go.100% small enough to fit in your pfd pocket.
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: Fisherman X on July 15, 2017, 07:13:44 PM
Agreed if there are hooks tied on.

Each has its place, IMO. I put the noodle in my orange box behind the seat, I go in there frequently.
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: VK on July 15, 2017, 07:29:27 PM
Agreed if there are hooks tied on.

Each has its place, IMO. I put the noodle in my orange box behind the seat, I go in there frequently.

I use both , w/hooks Pips . W/o hooks, noodle and they both float  :smt044
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: MontanaN8V on July 16, 2017, 09:02:31 AM
I use wine or champagne corks. Rubber band locks the line tight, fits into pfd pockets easy peasy.
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: NowhereMan on July 16, 2017, 01:29:20 PM
Each has its place, IMO. I put the noodle in my orange box behind the seat, I go in there frequently.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see how either of those work very well with treble hooks. I put each in its own individual ziplock bag, and keep a bunch of them inside the middle hatch on my hobie. Only the ones that get used need to be washed.
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: VK on July 16, 2017, 01:53:04 PM
Each has its place, IMO. I put the noodle in my orange box behind the seat, I go in there frequently.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see how either of those work very well with treble hooks. I put each in its own individual ziplock bag, and keep a bunch of them inside the middle hatch on my hobie. Only the ones that get used need to be washed.
 

 FWIW , I would guess that depends on the size of the treble , I have the smaller Pips w/pre-tied trebles for dough baits  for trout but could easily use the larger size Pips for a larger treble . The examples below might give a better idea , although the larger Pips is tied with single 2/0 hooks they could easily be a larger treble .Of course the  type of rig preferred might be different for different anglers and require different storage  ...food for thought     
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: Widgeon on July 16, 2017, 04:56:33 PM
Does each pips box hold one leader, or several? It seems like they could get all tangled up with so many wound up inside such a small space. Is there something I'm missing?
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: VK on July 16, 2017, 05:05:09 PM
Does each pips box hold one leader, or several? It seems like they could get all tangled up with so many wound up inside such a small space. Is there something I'm missing?

several as in the pics I posted ,  haven`t had a tangle yet but I`m sure it could happen

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=how+pip+leader+box+works&hspart=att&hsimp=yhs-att_001#id=1&vid=9d23823b7db6b7912fe74b4232503e22&action=view
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: CptSloppywood on July 16, 2017, 05:25:20 PM
1000x better than storing leaders in zip locks.
One container to hold specific sized leaders. Never had a tangle in 20+ years I have used them.
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: Widgeon on July 16, 2017, 05:52:38 PM
Ok now that I take a second look at those pics I get it....there's cork material on the bottom to hook hooks into. Makes a lot more sense now...
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: AKfisher on July 20, 2017, 02:02:23 PM
Found the Large Pip's box at Sportsman's Warehouse for $2.19. Maybe a pricing error? They list for $10.99. Ordered 6 and got them within a few days. Even with shipping that's less than $4 each---

http://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com/sportsmans/Macks-Lure-Pips-Leader-Caddy/productDetail/Leaders-and-Accessories/prod9999007403/cat101137 (http://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com/sportsmans/Macks-Lure-Pips-Leader-Caddy/productDetail/Leaders-and-Accessories/prod9999007403/cat101137)

Matt
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: crazyfisher on July 20, 2017, 04:07:55 PM
Found the Large Pip's box at Sportsman's Warehouse for $2.19. Maybe a pricing error? They list for $10.99. Ordered 6 and got them within a few days. Even with shipping that's less than $4 each---

http://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com/sportsmans/Macks-Lure-Pips-Leader-Caddy/productDetail/Leaders-and-Accessories/prod9999007403/cat101137 (http://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com/sportsmans/Macks-Lure-Pips-Leader-Caddy/productDetail/Leaders-and-Accessories/prod9999007403/cat101137)

Matt

sweet...thanks for point it out. I just placed an order for 4 :) It went through and picking it up in-store when it arrives. Cross fingers they don't change it haha
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: CptSloppywood on July 20, 2017, 05:06:36 PM
Good find. I just order some extras.
Steelheaders essentials.
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: AKfisher on July 21, 2017, 12:23:52 AM
In store pickup sounds great! I am a bit away from a store so I had them shipped.  Let us know if that price holds!

Matt
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: MolonLabe916 on July 21, 2017, 10:51:43 AM
I just wrap around my hand like I would an extension cord around my arm and store in sandwich zip lock bags. I can fit 5 or 6 in my pfd pocket for easy access
Title: Re: Leaders
Post by: NowhereMan on July 21, 2017, 03:42:16 PM
I just wrap around my hand like I would an extension cord around my arm and store in sandwich zip lock bags. I can fit 5 or 6 in my pfd pocket for easy access

+1