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Native Watercraft / Re: Titan 12 in the ocean???
« on: August 09, 2018, 07:44:13 AM »
My only real concern would be surf launching it into heavy conditions.  Plenty of people have been surf launching Hobie Pro Anglers, and they do fine. But with our boats, because of the heft and construction of the propel drive, if you were to flip then the drive could become a hazard or fall off the boat.  They're pretty much a 15lb hammer that could really hurt you if they hit you in the head in the surf zone.

Mild surf launch conditions or general saltwater use (even in a rough ocean), they'll be fine.  Just rinse after every trip and lube the drive maybe every 3 months instead of the half year schedule Native recommends.

Native Watercraft / Re: Titan 12 in the ocean???
« on: August 09, 2018, 07:41:04 AM »
I'm Ben.

I was out at Albion in the tiny boat, the Manta Ray Propel. My distributor was out in the Titan 12 at the Albion tournament and told me it was a rock solid platform. I would say it performs more like a PA12 than a Hobie Outback.

The Titan 12 has been our best seller in the Titan Series this year.  If you can handle the weight, it can handle what you throw at it.  It has resolved some of the leaking hatch issues that affected some of the Titan 13.5 owners.  It does not have the best speed in the world, and will probably be outpaced by an Outback.  It should be more maneuverable than the outback as its rudder position has been moved more mid ship than previous iterations.  It should also be more stable than an outback and provide you with some factory options that you wouldn't get in an OB like groovetrack along the side. 

The propel drive is ruggedly built and has a 2 year warranty - there were some quality control issues early this year in some of the drives but those have been fixed by now so if you buy a new one you should be set.  There is maintenance involved with the propel drive (like maintaining a bicycle), so be aware of that before you buy.  Some people recommend aftermarket rudder upgrades which can cost anywhere from $70-$200.  I am not 100% sure they're required on the Titan 12 yet.

I also recommend getting a weedguard or weed guardian for the propel drive - they are 3d printed shaft seals that go around the gap between the prop and the drive casing.  What that does is overall prevent weeds from wrapping around the prop shaft which generally requires pulling the drive and clearing it.  They're a huge improvement and well worth the ~$15 or so investment.

The only place to try one out is at Headwaters Kayak in Lodi - Dan's shop.  They'll be happy to demo one for you. 

Let me know if you have any questions.

does it need to be a siwash?  I really like the owner barbless no escape hook but they're not siwash.  I use high quality split rings with them.

Anyone get the gate code yet?  Plan on rolling in early Thurs before office opens.
yeah what's up with that? we're supposed ot be emailed gate codes right?

Introductions / Re: FNG
« on: July 24, 2018, 12:05:02 PM »
Welcome to the group Ed.  At that event you got to meet some of the finest people that NCKA has to offer, as well as two of the worst.


General Fishing Tips / Re: How do you make a Watermelon Apex Lure?
« on: July 24, 2018, 11:47:35 AM »
I just buy them.  I also buy the Brad's cut plugs which have been great as well and are sometimes a bit cheaper.

Craftsmen's Corner / Re: A new gaff
« on: July 24, 2018, 10:19:40 AM »
what varnish do you use to seal with?

General Talk / Re: Picking a spot to retire
« on: July 23, 2018, 10:13:42 AM »
I've thought about it for a while and I'm not sure. I like temperate climates. I don't like humidity and I won't ever shovel snow. I want evenings to stay cool and stay outdoorsy.  I think it's gonna be southern oregon for me, or possibly eureka.  I've got a few more to go until retirement though, another 27 years before I hit my pension. 

Just gonna sit back and keep saving money, and if the housing market ever softens where I want to go I'll take a jump and maybe try to buy the retirement house early. 

Maybe I'll just invest in gold.

Event went great thanks to a bunch of first time volunteers, lots of great 831 crew showing up and a bunch of the Salty Nutz were in attendance. Great group of guys. Still collecting pics so I'll post up more when I can either here or on our FB Page.

Alright, now that our last event is wrapped up, time for this one next month! I'll be out so we could use some help on this one with both Shore and on the water duty.  We have about 30 confirmed so far.  Really could use some help so if you could help out Rob would really appreciate it.


General Fishing Tips / Re: Lake Tahoe - Mackinaw - kayak?
« on: July 20, 2018, 02:30:42 PM »
I camped at Bliss last week for 5 days and each morning (7-9am) the charter boats were right off Lester Beach about 1000 yards out. Not sure if they were catching kokes or Mackinaw, but that's the first year (in past 10) where the charters were stacked up right there. Good luck!
most likely if they were all there then they were chasing kokanee.  that's a pretty common staging area for the koks.

General Fishing Tips / Re: Lake Tahoe - Mackinaw - kayak?
« on: July 20, 2018, 02:22:11 PM »
What's up NCKA -

I'll be staying at DL Bliss State Park next week, which is just north of Emerald Bay.  I go every year but this will be the first time i have a nice hobie revo kayak.  I was thinking about bringing it up and fishing for some mackinaw trout.  Does anyone have any tips?  I have a fish finder, but all of my gear is set up for salt water fishing (salmon, rock fish etc). 

What kind of lures do i need?  Do i need a diver to get to deep water?  Do i troll or jig?  where do these spectacular fish hang out?  Any advice would be greatly appreciated!  Thanks!

Mackinaw are pretty much freshwater lingcod and will eat similar stuff to them...2/3oz p line jigs are my favorite.  they hang out on dropoffs and underwater humps from 70-250ft deep. Check for contours on a bathymetric type map or your favorite gps software like navionics.

I always like the Sunsets when the red sunlight reflects off the water in the cove  goes through the bridge structure

And long walks on the beach.
And holding hands while deleting all trace of yourself off social media

General Talk / Re: ICAST 2018...Year of the Barge,
« on: July 18, 2018, 09:06:15 AM »
The problem is the weight of anything rotomold. When we spend how many thousands of dollars for a rotomolded Pro angler? Some tell me why a PA could not be made of carbon fiber? That would chop about 1/4-1/3 of the kayaks weight.
Native and Hurricane have pretty light ones.
62lbs is the lightest we have. Definitely a nice option weight wise on the Slayer Propel 10 and the Slayer 12 LT Propel but getting below 60 will be a struggle that's for sure.  I mean very few paddle only kayaks get below 60lbs as it is.

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The Hurricane/Native LT is thermoformed. It could be lighter, but Hurricane did not believe that the thermoform construction would be strong enough to hold up to the strain of the pedal drive system, so they created a drop in thermoformed pod to help strengthen the whole system.  Overall the kayak is excellent, although it does have its minor faults.  I do have one that people are able to try out.  However after rigging and all that it only ends up being about a 10lb savings over something like the Manta Ray Propel, which is the other one I have and about 72lbs.

Any chance they would make an LT version of the manta ray propel? I think itís sexiest kayak Hull wise
I highly doubt it but would wish for something more like the Slayer 13 with a bit sharper bow entry.  The 13 is great but at 85lbs is a bit too heavy for me to deal with.  At this time and the cost of developing a mold I don't think they'll be doing it.  People overall don't seem to mind the weight of these pedal drives and the lighter stuff isn't a big seller right now. If we could prove that they would be able to sell them yeah, but the sales are totally opposite that and they gotta make money.

General Fishing Tips / Re: Crawfish spots?
« on: July 16, 2018, 08:32:17 AM »
If you ever get up to Tahoe they got some great crawdads there. Big Signals from super clean water.

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