NorCal Kayak Anglers
Kayak Fishing Zone => General Fishing Tips => Topic started by: DeltaYakR on August 02, 2017, 09:15:36 AM
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With the wet season we had it apparently brought out the schools of silver salmon thick down to HMB and some running up the sac river. The other day in HMB about 20-30 boats got citations for having silvers in the box thinking they were small jacks. Citations were going for $1500 each! Also saw online a photo from the AR of a silver bled out out and on a stringer with the angler thinking it was a small jack. Just remember to be sure it's a king before you bonk it!
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Thanks for the reminder. Here's a great video on how to identify silvers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvwYFucRf2U
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Saw a few boats get ticketed on the water last weekend. When a boat with uninformed anglers on board gets a boat limit with coho in the mix, who gets the ticket?
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Saw a few boats get ticketed on the water last weekend. When a boat with uninformed anglers on board gets a boat limit with coho in the mix, who gets the ticket?
I guess the captain/owner of the boat.
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If no one fesses up, I bet they wouldn't hesitate to ticket ALL the anglers on board.
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Thanks for the reminder. Here's a great video on how to identify silvers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvwYFucRf2U
That's Sarah! She slays it up here in Humboldt.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170802/4616e5b8b74554f1f1c9f8f577358fee.jpg)
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I've never heard of the tail method - interesting ! Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks for the reminder. Here's a great video on how to identify silvers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvwYFucRf2U
That's Sarah! She slays it up here in Humboldt.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170802/4616e5b8b74554f1f1c9f8f577358fee.jpg)
She's amazing and very kind! Met her on the water and she was slaying fish left and right
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I've never heard of the tail method - interesting ! Thanks for sharing.
I know the day she learned that lesson. lol
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Nice to know another way of identifying the difference,
Thanks!!!
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Never heard of that one either.
What do you think the mortality rate is of a fish after being netted and manhandled?
is the gum test not enough for the DFG to not issue a ticket?
We're not biologists.
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Thanks to Eric Stockwell, it has saved a lot of coho lives because not every king has straight black gums. Another way to take into account is how the salmon fights.
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The four methods I use are 1) how the fish fight. Choho usually have a fiesty fight and jump out of the water. 2) the gums check 3) colors on their back are more green vs. king I think are more purple 4) the tail check as a last resort.
Typically 1-3 will get the job done, and if it is suspect just release it unharmed. I let a 20 lb suspect fish go at shelter. It was a tough one to swallow cause it could have gone both ways but I took the side of caution and let it go.i have some how convince myself over the years it was a batray and that helps me get through it. :smt010
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The four methods I use are 1) how the fish fight. Choho usually have a fiesty fight and jump out of the water. 2) the gums check 3) colors on their back are more green vs. king I think are more purple 4) the tail check as a last resort.
Typically 1-3 will get the job done, and if it is suspect just release it unharmed. I let a 20 lb suspect fish go at shelter. It was a tough one to swallow cause it could have gone both ways but I took the side of caution and let it go.i have some how convince myself over the years it was a batray and that helps me get through it. :smt010
King/coho who cares i just kill em both and let god sort them out in my BELLY!!!! #eattheevidence #salmonsoulstastebest #biteandrelease #nocopnostop #fuckyourfine #whatsalmonofficer? #ALLSALMONMATTER :smt044 :smt044 :smt044 :smt044 :smt044 :smt044 :smt044 :smt044 :smt003
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The four methods I use are 1) how the fish fight. Choho usually have a fiesty fight and jump out of the water. 2) the gums check 3) colors on their back are more green vs. king I think are more purple 4) the tail check as a last resort.
Typically 1-3 will get the job done, and if it is suspect just release it unharmed. I let a 20 lb suspect fish go at shelter. It was a tough one to swallow cause it could have gone both ways but I took the side of caution and let it go.i have some how convince myself over the years it was a batray and that helps me get through it. :smt010
King/coho who cares i just kill em both and let god sort them out in my BELLY!!!! #eattheevidence #salmonsoulstastebest #biteandrelease #nocopnostop #fuckyourfine #whatsalmonofficer? #ALLSALMONMATTER :smt044 :smt044 :smt044 :smt044 :smt044 :smt044 :smt044 :smt044 :smt003
When i saw you put that baby halibut between the two slices of bread and eat it alive i knew you had another set of standards. Lol. :smt044 :smt044 :smt044 :smt044
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On Sunday my first salmon I hooked was fighting hard and going nuts. It was jumping every where and running far. Lots of kayakers saw the fight. Seems like a silver and was told it was a silver by the way it was fighting but it wasn't. When I got it in the net it was very green but was a king with its black gum and tail. Was checked by Dfg and they said it looked like a silver but said it was a king by checking the tail. So the Fight doesn't matter. Just know how to identify them properly
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On Sunday my first salmon I hooked was fighting hard and going nuts. It was jumping every where and running far. Lots of kayakers saw the fight. Seems like a silver and was told it was a silver by the way it was fighting but it wasn't. When I got it in the net it was very green but was a king with its black gum and tail. Was checked by Dfg and they said it looked like a silver but said it was a king by checking the tail. So the Fight doesn't matter. Just know how to identify them properly
I agree with you, I think the fight is not a good indicator. I've had kings that had gone bird crazy. For me, the check marks are the gum, the spots on tail, and the tail texture ... then boink!
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Coho also have a more "trout like" body shape. They have a thicker/wider caudal peduncle than a similarly sized chinook. That can be used as yet another check, as long as you have a little experience looking at (100% confirmed) chinooks.
Catching cohos up in Washington has helped me tell the difference.
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Fight and color usually do it for me right away. Size too, but I have caught some good sized coho. I have been using the tail method for many years and have shared it on here a few times.
Matt released 2 kings today and I released 1. They were caught while calibut fishing at Shelter Cove. 15-20lbers.
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Such a plethera of info on this forum!
Thank you all for sharing!
Hope I can contribute some good info someday.
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Why not just use the method DFW recommends?
-Allen