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Kayak Fishing Zone => Hookups and Fishing Reports (Viewable by Public) => Topic started by: Pollywog: AKA "THE CODFATHER" on July 07, 2012, 10:15:46 AM
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Kayaker on. Capitola pier reports on getting attacked by shark. Today
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I got a call a little bit ago with the news. Everyone is OK, but pretty shook up, I'm sure. :smt009 :smt010
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I just got a call as well from JTfish. I think the yaker that was attached by GWS is Fishaddict (Mel)! From the call, it seem like he's ok, but the revo is trashed.
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Thanks God everyone is OK. Thank you for the info guys.
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They sounded pretty shook up when they called me. It looks likeall the bait is pulling the land lord as well.
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Just got off the phone with Mel. He sounds calm and OK. The fog was thick and he's about half a mile out when the attack happened.
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I'm glad to hear everyone is OK.
Hope everyone else OTW knows what happened.
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OMG! I hope everybody's okay! :smt011
Kiel
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glad mel is ok, hope everyone else is safe, cameron
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DAYUUM, that sucks. I'm glad to hear that Mel is OK. I hope that everyone else down there is safe.
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Good to hear Mel is OK. Damn!
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Oh no! Mel I hope you are ok. Thats scary shit!
Thank you for the warning.
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just got a call....Mel, glad your OK !
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holy crap! man im glad theres a happy ending,that shark shields not looking to pricey about now
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holy crap! man im glad theres a happy ending,that shark shields not looking to pricey about now
My thoughts as well!!!
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Thanks reporters, keep us posted
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Glad to hear no injuries.
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Glad he is OK. Scary stuff thats for sure this year is not playing out too well for Attacks already 2 in cali and not even Mid July yet. Hope thats the end of them.
Wonder if its the same shark as Cambria. It is possible thats for sure.
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Good thing nobody was hurt.
Mel, did you have fish on a stringer or was there blood on the kayak.
anything that you may think that may have attracted the shark to your kayak; maybe the Hobie drive flippers?
anything that may help us minimized future attacks, other that being out of the water.
Scubaluis
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:smt011
Glad nobody was physically damaged. Let's all try and be extra safe down there and try to always stay within site of somebody else.
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Wow!!! Glad nobody was hurt!!
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Glad everyone is safe
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Mel,
Sorry to hear such alarming news but it's great to hear that you're safe and OK.
Martin
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Mel
Glad your OK. When I fished there 2 days ago it seemed sharky for some reason and wished I had brought my shark shield. Let me know when you go out again and I'll be your wing man.
Scott
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Shijt Mel. Glad your okay.
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Mel I'm glad you're not hurt. It would suck to lose a fishing buddy. i know the fishing is hot in the bay right now, but guys, please stick together and be careful.
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Glad to hear all is safe...
can't even imagine the horror and power of that beast hitting my yak...
yet another attack, and another kakayfisherman walks/swims away... were getting Damn lucky no one has been seriously hurt or killed...
Group buy on shark shields anyone...?
So Glad your safe Mel....
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Mel, sorry to hear about your kayak, but most importantly glad you're safe!
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So glad to hear you are ok Mel. Gave me goosebumps reading it.
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Glad your ok Mel. But look at it this way, you are now part of a very elite club with a giant chew toy as a trophy. I have extra yaks in Santa Cruz if you need to borrow one
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Mel,
Glad to know you came out of such a terrifying experience unscathed. Not sure if you are going to let your asawa know about it. She might not let you go out anymore. Take care and you are welcome to join me in the PB while that beast is in that neighborhood.
Rey
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No fun Mel, sorry to hear.
Fureyous1 :smt009
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So glad no serious injuries occurred. I can't imagine how scary that would be. Would like to hear the full story.
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**shakes head**
glad your ok mel
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Add me to the list of those glad there were no physical injuries. I was out there yesterday and it seemed perfectly normal, except for the huge amount of squid and ghosts. That could have been me. I think I heard of a shark siting this year off of Marina, where there was an attack a couple of years ago.
I'm getting interested in Shark Shield. I can avoid Marina and Bean Hollow, but the landlord's starting to buy up all the properties on the Fish Monopoly board!
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Glad to hear you physically OK. I decided I will be in the ski boat tomorrow on fresh water.
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Thank God you're OK Mel. See you soon bro.
Jedmo
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Very happy you are not injured and I hope somehow the rest of your weekend is relaxing and enjoyable.
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I can avoid Marina and Bean Hollow, but the landlord's starting to buy up all the properties on the Fish Monopoly board!
The sharks have always been out there - we all know this. We NCKA'ers are simply growing in numbers and we will have more incidents in the future. So far (thank God) 4 of our brothers have dodged the bullet. Practice safe kayakfishing = use the buddy system :smt045
I was predicting that Davenport was gonna be the next site of an attack.
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Very scary indeed.
Holy crap..Landlord needs to chill and stick with fur bags.
Glad everyone is ok..
Stay together guys..I am probably worst offender but this makes me think twice.
Dave
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what kind of kayak?
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what kind of kayak?
Revolution.
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Chale on that tamale! Very glad fo hear no physical injuries. Sad that it was one of he hobie crew
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Glad to hear you are okay.
HB
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Just an FYI / reminder
July 21,2007 - Dan at Bean Hollow
August 12, 2010 - Adam at Bean Hollow
November 22, 2011 - Harry at Pigeon Point light House
July 7, 2012 - Mel at Capitola
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I have never heard of an attack on a kayak that was fishing within spitting distance of another kayak. Stay close to your bros. Best wishes to you Mel on your path to emotional recovery and conradulations on being alive.
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I was in that exact spot on Monday fishing -- a few rockfish but what struck me was how many dolphin (I probably saw 20-25), sea lions, seals, and otters I saw. I guess the landlord is drawn to bait balls, just like other big fish.
I need to get a giant rotomolded swimbait, apparently.
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Dang Mel! Glad your alright buddy!
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Crazy stuff. Glad to hear everything turned out ok (except for the kayak).
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I'll be selling these at the next NCKA event :smt002
* tow this behind your kayak :smt045
Orca attack on Great White (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8GaDuCvYbE#)
http://www.storeforknowledge.com/7-Foot-Long-Inflatable-Lifelike-Orca-Killer-Whale-P11584.aspx (http://www.storeforknowledge.com/7-Foot-Long-Inflatable-Lifelike-Orca-Killer-Whale-P11584.aspx)
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I saw a TV show where the scientist were trolling a seal shaped lure at the farralons.
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Glad you are ok Mel. I am waiting for the day that I pull up a hitch hiker great white on a ling! I think a bang stick is a good idea in that area.
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Glad you are O.k Mel.
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Mel, glad you're OK, and also glad you had a couple of buds with you. I'm going to rethink going out alone.
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Glad Mel is OK...i knew i was being watched last time I was at Cap.. I was 20 yds behind Moody on my dune colored Revo, does anyone know what color Mel's is?
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Scary stuff. I was just fishing that same area last week. Glad Mel is ok. I'm going to star using the buddy system a lot more.
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OK guys let's not get too carried away with speculation and questions. Mel's fine. Give him a bit to post up. After he posts Chad/Fishadow and I will post up with what we saw.
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Mel, I'm soooo glad and thankful that you're ok brother! I have to agree with Scott, yesterday I felt lil eerie out there for a moment myself.
If you ever need a wingman, I too will be there for ya! :)
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I'm glad you are ok. I hate to see anyone have to go through this.
Eric Morgan
Trident Ultra 4.7
Not the guy selling the Outback
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Glad to hear that you're okay and we're all here for you bro!
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Well it didn't take long to get some press.
http://capitola.patch.com/articles/shark-bites-kayak-at-pleasure-point (http://capitola.patch.com/articles/shark-bites-kayak-at-pleasure-point)
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So it wasnt at the buoy?
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Dude, they need to give that tooth fragment to Mel!
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Glad you're OK Mel.
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Well it didn't take long to get some press.
http://capitola.patch.com/articles/shark-bites-kayak-at-pleasure-point (http://capitola.patch.com/articles/shark-bites-kayak-at-pleasure-point)
From the article ...
Shark sightings are not unheard-of in the Monterey Bay, but according to Keane, an encounter so close to the shore is highly rare if not unprecedented. The water is only 40-feet deep where the incident occurred. Sightings usually occur at least a mile from the beach, Keane said.
I think this guy is spreading mis-information. :smt011
-Allen
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yikes! Hey whats the black stripe on the bottom?
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I am doing well guys and thanks for your concern. I will post my story in a bit. Don't go out alone and always carry your safety gear.
Mel
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Mel,
Great to see your post and confirm that you're OK. I get chills just thinking about what you went through.
Martin
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Right on and thank you Mel, you calmed a lot of souls by touching base so fast. So sorry to hear about your boat.
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glad it ended well
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ktvu posted first picture
http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/shark-attacks-kayak-santa-cruz/nPpCp/ (http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/shark-attacks-kayak-santa-cruz/nPpCp/)
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Some details in article like the distance offshore the were off. Probably due to the multiple retellings. The police officer quoted -does have some background with shark sighting off that area, as an avid local surfer, and he was with the Santa Cruz Harbor Master before joining the Cap PD
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Thanks for posting it calmns my nerves after seeing and assuring you ok..super glad only the kayak too the damage physically, but we all know your hurting inside, you have family here, let healing process begin.
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Yet again, the kayak takes the hit. So glad to hear Mel is doing well.
Just an FYI / reminder
July 21,2007 - Dan at Bean Hollow
August 12, 2010 - Adam at Bean Hollow
November 22, 2011 - Harry at Pigeon Point light House
July 7, 2012 - Mel at Capitola
And this one:
May 12, 2012 - Joey Nocchi, Leffingwell Landing, Cambria
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It was the big lead story on channel 7. On channel 11 they had pictures of the boat on the wharf with me bending over it and Chad in the foreground. No Mel :smt005. I'm expecting a call from my parents any minute
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Damn! Glad you made it ok Mel, I hope it gave him a bad taste in his mouth...
Bean Hollow Sunday anyone?
And what KayakJack says is true, groups have not been hit yet, so I'll stick to my plan and stick to the fellas like glue!
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Glad to hear all is safe...
can't even imagine the horror and power of that beast hitting my yak...
yet another attack, and another kakayfisherman walks/swims away... were getting Damn lucky no one has been seriously hurt or killed...
Group buy on shark shields anyone...?
So Glad your safe Mel....
Ditto on Being OK sounds like your rent was paid Brother...and shark shield group buy I"m in!!! :smt044 :smt044 :smt044
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Mel,
I too am glad and thankful that u're unharmed.
Uttered a short prayer for your complete recovery.
+1 with Sledge on the shark shield group buy. Let's do it.
Danny
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Glad you're ok Mel. Be careful out there fellows. It's feeding time for those landlord.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=shark%20attack%20at%20capitola%202012&source=web&cd=7&sqi=2&ved=0CF0QFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcapitola.patch.com%2Farticles%2Fshark-bites-kayak-at-pleasure-point&ei=sdz4T_OpMKTB2QWopojkBg&usg=AFQjCNHLORWelOGlMJYRUlqdkoxS6irqsg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=shark%20attack%20at%20capitola%202012&source=web&cd=7&sqi=2&ved=0CF0QFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcapitola.patch.com%2Farticles%2Fshark-bites-kayak-at-pleasure-point&ei=sdz4T_OpMKTB2QWopojkBg&usg=AFQjCNHLORWelOGlMJYRUlqdkoxS6irqsg)
Freddie
IslandYak
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Well it didn't take long to get some press.
http://capitola.patch.com/articles/shark-bites-kayak-at-pleasure-point (http://capitola.patch.com/articles/shark-bites-kayak-at-pleasure-point)
Definitely a misinformed writer. 100 yards would put the attack in the kelpline and perhaps even the surfline (there was a minus tide this morning). Also, it's fairly shallow a ways out, which discredits what the writer says about depth. Knowing the area well because of diving, you'd probably struggle to find a spot over 28 feet deep within a quarter mile of shore.
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glad you're Ok Mel. :smt002
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Glad to hear all is safe...
can't even imagine the horror and power of that beast hitting my yak...
yet another attack, and another kakayfisherman walks/swims away... were getting Damn lucky no one has been seriously hurt or killed...
Group buy on shark shields anyone...?
I want to buy one too.
So Glad your safe Mel....
Ditto on Being OK sounds like your rent was paid Brother...and shark shield group buy I"m in!!! :smt044 :smt044 :smt044
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Mel, I'm glad that you're safe and sound. Olivia is hoping you're feeling OK too, and she still very much appreciates the crib that you graciously gave to her!
Ben
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Mel's story....
http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=39339.msg425698#new (http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=39339.msg425698#new)
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Hi, heard about the attack on the BWE site. What a terriffying experience. Glad all is well.
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I talked To Dennis Spike tonight.He says shark shields have come down to a little under 600.00 they were 700.00.I want one.
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First off, sooo glad your ok Mel. Scary sh*t Man! Sounds like you remained calm in the middle of a storm. Good for you. I've been in life threatening situations more than once, and everytime I've been cool under fire (literally) it's after when you have time to think about it when it hits you... Hope you can sleep tonight. You might want to take a sleeping pill tonight. And a chaser too...I noticed from your pics the yak was yellow with black on it, again like Adams. So I googled "what colors do sharks attack most" and came up with a couple very interesting results.
http://www.ehow.com/info_8480268_colors-do-sharks-attack.html (http://www.ehow.com/info_8480268_colors-do-sharks-attack.html)
MythBusters - Shark's Favorite Color? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmt5gF1fqZo#)
Seems like they confirm their preference to "yum yum yellow" and especially stark contrasting colors. Also silver looking (no surprize there) Not that we can ever guarentee preventing an encounter. It can't hurt to reduce the risks statistcally. Also, Chad were you there when Adam got hit at the bean? If so, I'd be a little nervous if I were you....... :smt002
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Mel, glad you came away from this ordeal safe and intact.
I personally know how this is going to rattle/affect you. The psychological part takes a while to get through and in time it gets a little easier. Staying close to family and friends is BIG medicine...it's good for the head.
Sincerely,
Harry
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I talked To Dennis Spike tonight.He says shark shields have come down to a little under 600.00 they were 700.00.I want one.
I visited Paddleboy84 at Headwaters Kayak Shop last Wed. and spoke to him about bringing in the Shark Shield (How ironic). He said if there was enough interest from NCKA he would research it. Right now the cost is about 600.00-650.00+tx.
Sounds like it's time to "git-er-dun"
How about it Danny!
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Mel, I'm soooo glad and thankful that you're ok brother! I have to agree with Scott, yesterday I felt lil eerie out there for a moment myself.
If you ever need a wingman, I too will be there for ya! :)
Yeah, DP when we where over to the south with just you and me and few other boats I had the same feeling, especially when I tore the gills out of the butt and there was blood everywhere. I remember thinking it feels a little spooky for some reason. Got to go with the sixth sense.....
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Seems like they confirm their preference to "yum yum yellow" and especially stark contrasting colors. Also silver looking (no surprize there) Not that we can ever guarentee preventing an encounter. It can't hurt to reduce the risks statistcally. Also, Chad were you there when Adam got hit at the bean? If so, I'd be a little nervous if I were you....... :smt002
Glyn, that was not a very scientific test. They came to their conclusion after only one strike. And don't forget that Dan's chewed up kayak was red.
Howard
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Glyn, that was not a very scientific test. They came to their conclusion after only one strike. And don't forget that Dan's chewed up kayak was red.
Not to mention Harry's kayak was olive in color. I am not sure if GWS prefer yellow kayaks, or it is just coincidence due to the sheer number of yellow kayaks out there. But here is what we do know:
Just an FYI / reminder
July 21,2007 - Dan at Bean Hollow
August 12, 2010 - Adam at Bean Hollow
November 22, 2011 - Harry at Pigeon Point light House
July 7, 2012 - Mel at Capitola
So 3 Hobies and 1 non-Hobie. This despite Hobies making up less than a third of NCKA members' primary fishing kayak according to our own survey:
http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=36621.60 (http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=36621.60)
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Pare, thank God you're okay. Sorry to hear about your Revo. Well, now i guess you can justify getting the AI.
LL
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Glyn, that was not a very scientific test. They came to their conclusion after only one strike. And don't forget that Dan's chewed up kayak was red.
Not to mention Harry's kayak was olive in color. I am not sure if GWS prefer yellow kayaks, or it is just coincidence due to the sheer number of yellow kayaks out there. But here is what we do know:
Just an FYI / reminder
July 21,2007 - Dan at Bean Hollow
August 12, 2010 - Adam at Bean Hollow
November 22, 2011 - Harry at Pigeon Point light House
July 7, 2012 - Mel at Capitola
So 3 Hobies and 1 non-Hobie. This despite Hobies making up less than a third of NCKA members' primary fishing kayak according to our own survey:
http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=36621.60 (http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=36621.60)
I think the Cambria attack in May, 2012 was on a blue Cobra.
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I think the Cambria attack in May, 2012 was on a blue Cobra.
Yep Blue, Starting to think color doesnt matter. I think these things are just getting to curious. Has any of these been a full breech out of the water. Sounds like they are coming up and bumping them and then taking a taste and getting out of dodge as plastic taste crappy.
Hope no one gets the bite hitting flesh. Could turn nasty in a second if that happened.
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Adam's and Harry's were full breach.
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Heard the news last night; was out of cell range. Glad to hear Mel is okay and made it back safe.
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Adam's and Harry's were full breach.
The GWS "HIT" right under my seat (kill shot), knocking over 300 lbs. (Gross weight) into the air, like I was a beach ball floating on the water.
In the east coast news yesterday, they talked about warning the public about GWS sightings at local beaches because of the over abundance of Harp and Gray seals. They also had video of GWS in 5 to 10' of water stalking seals. So this thing about GWS not coming in shallow to hunt is "Horse Patooties"
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I think the Cambria attack in May, 2012 was on a blue Cobra.
Yep Blue, Starting to think color doesnt matter. I think these things are just getting to curious. Has any of these been a full breech out of the water. Sounds like they are coming up and bumping them and then taking a taste and getting out of dodge as plastic taste crappy.
Hope no one gets the bite hitting flesh. Could turn nasty in a second if that happened.
Luckily it seems like they come straight up on a missile attack and target the front of the kayak. In the surf they come in from the side which is why surfers sometimes get bit. Kayakers don't spend much time hanging out in the surf zone like surfers do so we get hit fishing in and around the kelp or shallow structure. Agree that color doesn't matter but contrast might. The good news is that polyethylene kayaks can survive a full on GWS missile attack. The bad news is that the hull was penetrated in every attack so if you are far from a landing site, things could get bad. Hobies can be peddled and pumped out at the same time in theory.
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There was another yellow yak out there (Kirk) Idk if it was because Mel was just a little further from the kelp or because it was hobie, or yellow with stripe. All I know is that you never know when or why those beasts attack. I wish some one did.....but I don't, and no one here really does....and i don't think we ever will. I really do hope the shark shields works, I don't doubt that they do. For me sticking close to my buddies gives me a bigger sense of security. I guess Im trying to say don't go out alone(my2cents)
Be safe out there you guys :smt006
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I've had a couple experienced yak vets tell me to feel safe South of Santa Cruz. I'm just not sure that is the case anymore. There was a guy in Gaviota on a SIK that got hit a few years ago.
Capitola, Cambria, Gaviota. These are all south of Santa Cruz.
Bean is obviously the most sharky but we need to be aware on buddied up on all of our outings IMHO.
Shark shield is sounding like a good bet but the other threads tailing about battery life have me concerned.
I'm glad Mel is ok. This will probably happen again and I hope the next guy is ok as well. Lets just hope we go a few more years or never have this happen again.
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Shocked to say the least. We are so happy everyone made it to shore safely.
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http://news.yahoo.com/great-white-shark-cape-cod-beach-reopens-sighting-164529546--abc-news-topstories.html (http://news.yahoo.com/great-white-shark-cape-cod-beach-reopens-sighting-164529546--abc-news-topstories.html)
Another sighting the stalking being talked about as well as Mels incident being mentioned.
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I've had a couple experienced yak vets tell me to feel safe South of Santa Cruz.
Saw this on big waters edge
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that yahoo "news" article sucked. that lady cop should stick to desk duty and mr. van sommeran needs to go find another line of work. nothing they said jives with Mels account or the historical accounts of the attacks on members.
7/9/12 update; Yep hit the east coast news alright. Short blurb tying the two coasts together for early shark sightings, with a really ignorant lady cop from Capitola giving a sound bite.
Mel & Co. I really wish you best of luck and peaceful seclusion from the whackjob media
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IMO: the color doesn't really matter. The term "yum yum yellow" is B.S. Yellow is a very common color for kayaks. It's as simple as that. Those "tests" they did was done in one day (pls. correct me if I'm wrong)
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Couldnt agree more with you mooch.
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I've had a couple experienced yak vets tell me to feel safe South of Santa Cruz.
Saw this on big waters edge
I think I'm going to spend more time fishing Mendocino County...
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I've had a couple experienced yak vets tell me to feel safe South of Santa Cruz. I'm just not sure that is the case anymore. There was a guy in Gaviota on a SIK that got hit a few years ago.
Capitola, Cambria, Gaviota. These are all south of Santa Cruz.
Bean is obviously the most sharky but we need to be aware on buddied up on all of our outings IMHO.
Shark shield is sounding like a good bet but the other threads tailing about battery life have me concerned.
I'm glad Mel is ok. This will probably happen again and I hope the next guy is ok as well. Lets just hope we go a few more years or never have this happen again.
Watch who you take advise from South of Santa Cruz harbor goes a long long way and you could find lots of sharks :smt012( that is the direction straight out of the harbor.) ..I think he meant to say east ... :smt002
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I've had a couple experienced yak vets tell me to feel safe South of Santa Cruz. I'm just not sure that is the case anymore. There was a guy in Gaviota on a SIK that got hit a few years ago.
Capitola, Cambria, Gaviota. These are all south of Santa Cruz.
Bean is obviously the most sharky but we need to be aware on buddied up on all of our outings IMHO.
Shark shield is sounding like a good bet but the other threads tailing about battery life have me concerned.
I'm glad Mel is ok. This will probably happen again and I hope the next guy is ok as well. Lets just hope we go a few more years or never have this happen again.
Watch who you take advise from South of Santa Cruz harbor goes a long long way and you could find lots of sharks :smt012( that is the direction straight out of the harbor.) ..I think he meant to say east ... :smt002
The bay always confuses my sense of direction. Point taken.
I took my dad out of MBK with scallen on Saturday. He was pretty concerned about sharks. I told him no way, they are mostly farther "north" like by the Farallon (sp?) islands. Guess I lied.
They had lunch with family on Sunday without me. I knew of Mel's incident when he was still with me but decided to keep him uninformed, also didn't tell the wife. Relatives at the lunch spilled the beans. They started emailing me with story links like I didn't know. One link was for the shark research website. There are a TON of reports in SoCal. Surprisingly my wife was not alarmed.
The three of us got 8 Rockies, dad had the hot stick with 4. Single white shrimp fly. He said " I'm trying to mimic a krill of shrimp swimming near the bottom".
Eric Morgan
Trident Ultra 4.7
Not the guy selling the Outback
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I've had a couple experienced yak vets tell me to feel safe South of Santa Cruz. I'm just not sure that is the case anymore. There was a guy in Gaviota on a SIK that got hit a few years ago.
Capitola, Cambria, Gaviota. These are all south of Santa Cruz.
Bean is obviously the most sharky but we need to be aware on buddied up on all of our outings IMHO.
Shark shield is sounding like a good bet but the other threads tailing about battery life have me concerned.
I'm glad Mel is ok. This will probably happen again and I hope the next guy is ok as well. Lets just hope we go a few more years or never have this happen again.
Watch who you take advise from South of Santa Cruz harbor goes a long long way and you could find lots of sharks :smt012( that is the direction straight out of the harbor.) ..I think he meant to say east ... :smt002
The bay always confuses my sense of direction. Point taken.
I took my dad out of MBK with scallen on Saturday. He was pretty concerned about sharks. I told him no way, they are mostly farther "north" like by the Farallon (sp?) islands. Guess I lied.
They had lunch with family on Sunday without me. I knew of Mel's incident when he was still with me but decided to keep him uninformed, also didn't tell the wife. Relatives at the lunch spilled the beans. They started emailing me with story links like I didn't know. One link was for the shark research website. There are a TON of reports in SoCal. Surprisingly my wife was not alarmed.
The three of us got 8 Rockies, dad had the hot stick with 4. Single white shrimp fly. He said " I'm trying to mimic a krill of shrimp swimming near the bottom".
Eric Morgan
Trident Ultra 4.7
Not the guy selling the Outback
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When I first moved to Santa Cruz and surfing all around I heard all this $%%# about how sharks are here and their but not over this way or that and that sounded like a nice calming way of thinking for someone that is not thinking but I am going with what the smartest old fisherman I ever new had to say about it "" Fn sharks swim in water so if you are in ocean water you are in the sharks ""... I personally am going too keep on with that line of thinking.
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More hobies percent wise attacked. Is there any possibility that A GWS gets excited by the vibration pulses of the flippers? How many of those hit were peddling?
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I'm curious to know how many of these yaks had fish finders on them and what brand and/or frequency they were set to. These are more relevant questions. A sharks primary senses are smell and electromagnetic sensors called ampullae of Lorenzini (as many of you know).
Glad you're OK Mel. Scary!
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There is only 1 way to determine if sharks are nearby.
1) Stick your finger in the water
2) Taste your finger
3) If it tastes salty, then sharks are nearby
There have been 2 violent attacks on surfers in Marina since 2007. With a number of aditional sightings. Even though it appears to be a very nondescript beach--it looks the same as the rest of the mid-bay contour. Something is drawing them to that spot though...
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Mel
glad to here your ok
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The sharks were there long before the kayak was .... are attacks on the rise? The Monterey Bay is experiencing an unusually high amount of food so it is natural that we should see higher apex predator sightings this year. My personal opinion as to why we are seeing more to kayaks? There are more kayak fisherman out there now than ever before.... seems simple to me.
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wow scary stuff. glad youre safe..
vin
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IMO: the color doesn't really matter. The term "yum yum yellow" is B.S. Yellow is a very common color for kayaks. It's as simple as that. Those "tests" they did was done in one day (pls. correct me if I'm wrong)
i thought i watched a show where they said most sharks are color blind and they normally go off the shape and contrast of an object? i dont know but im in on a shark shield if we have a group buy.
vin
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The sharks were there long before the kayak was .... are attacks on the rise? The Monterey Bay is experiencing an unusually high amount of food so it is natural that we should see higher apex predator sightings this year. My personal opinion as to why we are seeing more to kayaks? There are more kayak fisherman out there now than ever before.... seems simple to me.
Agreed
With the increasing number of pinnipeds, there is about a 10yr window where the predator population eventually catches up and starts to bring things into balance. So since the Marine Mammal Protection in the 70's we have seen increasing #'s of sharks. Add that to more & more paddlers out there, and more of them in areas they didn't used to be ("pushing the envelope") and here we are. The instant comms of internet & cell phones just make it easier for the word to get out, too.
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Stuff like this is why freshwater fishing has become so much more appealing to me. . .
Scary shit, man!!!
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I'm curious to know how many of these yaks had fish finders on them and what brand and/or frequency they were set to. These are more relevant questions. A sharks primary senses are smell and electromagnetic sensors called ampullae of Lorenzini (as many of you know).
I've always wondered the same thing. Turn on a FF with the transducer in your hand and you can feel the pinging. According to some info I Googled up, certain ping rates can repel fish and some sharks, but there also a chance that other ping rates/frequencies can mimic live fish and have the opposite effect. That may be something for shark researchers to look into.
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I took the Family out on a Six-pak for the day Saturday out of Santa Cruz. On the way back in, I'm telling my Daughters Boyfriend about bringing the Kayaks over for some Salt-Water fun (He's only been on Local Lakes) When we got Chaged and met the rest of the Group on Capitola Beach He saw these signs and wanted to know if I really Liked him or not! Glad to hear Mel is OK!!!
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So glad you are OK Mel. Sorry to hear about your boat.
-FF
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I'm curious to know how many of these yaks had fish finders on them and what brand and/or frequency they were set to. These are more relevant questions. A sharks primary senses are smell and electromagnetic sensors called ampullae of Lorenzini (as many of you know).
I've always wondered the same thing. Turn on a FF with the transducer in your hand and you can feel the pinging. According to some info I Googled up, certain ping rates can repel fish and some sharks, but there also a chance that other ping rates/frequencies can mimic live fish and have the opposite effect. That may be something for shark researchers to look into.
One year in spearfishing in Baja, I tied an electric marlin teaser to the bottom of the flasher line I was using to get wahoo to come in. The thing was supposed to sound like macs feeding and it made little pinging sounds when I held it up to my ear. My buddy who lent it to me (a dfg biologist) said that the marlin fishermen love them, but apparently it's really hard to keep the sharks away. Needless to say, I never saw a shark but I had a marlin come up below me and whack it with it's bill. (so cool!)
I think it's a little of all of the above. More sharks, more people, more yaks that feel, sound and smell like feeding fish.
Chuck - I'll email you the shark sense article I illustrated for Scientific American. Very insightful.
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Just for the record, back in 2009 when I got scoped I was not using a fishfinder, and did not have any fish aboard.
Aaron & Ben both had retained fish and had FF's deployed.
In my instance i think it was more about being farthest from the pack. We were still pretty close (within 100ft) , which is maybe why it gave me a once over rather than a hit.
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Regarding transducers .... my personal feeling is that they are on the wrong frequency or pattern. If this were not the case, why do we not see regular shark attacks to fishfinder equipped boats (or at the very least a curious shark). Not backed by anything more than observation .... IMHO
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I just found a recent shark shield study... not very encouraging.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-18/shark-shields-tested-attack/4076368 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-18/shark-shields-tested-attack/4076368)
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What I get from that article is dont hang a fat tuna (or wsb for that matter) from the side of your boat and the ss should work. Notice how it WAS effective on the gws that were "silhouette hunting" in SA.
The sharks that were defeating it (somewhat) were trained to feed on those tuna. Not good test subjects imo.
I dont disable my airbags or drive without a seat belt even though they aren't guaranteed to save my life in an accidernt.
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First and foremost I am relieved everyone is OK.
After reading this thread I needed some perspective. I am a rookie and I have never been on the ocean. I found the following to be interesting.
From Wikipedia
Since 1580 (yes 1580) there have been 1085 confirmed unprovoked shark attacks in the US - with 44 fatalities.
From US dept of labor
Deaths by Cattle from 2003-2007 - 108
I'm going fishing. :smt001