Forbay Sat. 3/26

Chuck,

Its similar to the palomar (which I use almost all the time).  The palomar winds up being a "hard" knot on the lure/hook.
http://eaglespark.com/Knots/palomar.htm


What I do differently is in step #1, make that loop much longer, make a big circle loop, twist that and just go through that with the hook/lure. It will look like a figure "8" just before you tighten and will produce an "open" knot.  I need to draw it or take a pict.  Its an easy knot, just hard to describe.

PS, when fishing live bait without a stinger treble, an "open loop" type of knot is key to giving the bait more freedom and movement.  

Only downside to the single hook is no stinger treble, which helps slightly for a better hookup %.  

Stuart

I just add on a split ring in front of the lure and tie a palomar on the ring.

I do the same when I'm fishing with live bait. I put a split ring on the hook eye and then I tie a palomar on the split ring.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jhtml?id=0002159312373a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnString=hasJS=true&_D%3AhasJS=+&QueryText=live+bait+hooks&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jhtml.22&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=live+bait+hooks&noImage=0&returnPage=search-results1.jhtml

you can buy hooks (open-eye siwash) and rings separately and make your own.

just my 2 cents....

I stocked up with a huge amount at wal-mart when it was 1/2 off after x-mas.  Not sure if I got red, but I know I've got gold, silver, root-beer, and opal.  Who knew they made light brown tinsel, but I'm gonna try it this season.  That tinsel has holographic flake in it and is kind of crimped as well.  Quite flashy.  Anyone who wants some can have some.  

I used a uni-knot for most fishing.  Use a double San Diego for tuna.  You have to tie a knot that you are comfortable with.  if it doesnt look right, re-tie.

ken kickfish

Ken did you have better luck with the tinsel I gave you?

Joel,

Split rings are not very strong compared to welded rings.  
For light to medium fish (which you are catching ), a split ring is fine.  
But for BIG, TOUGH fish, a split ring may fail.  I wouldn't try making your own "split rings" on a LB hook.  Easiest to use a hook and tie with an open loop.  

PS:  Let me know any time you want me to tie another slip knot for you.  

Stuart

Talk about sexy shimmering!  And we all know a ling is a sukka for the bling.    

Dude that is some nice stuff! Save some for me!  

PS: Let me know any time you want me to tie another slip knot for you.  

= NO THANKS STU  

By the way, they do make split rings that are "stonger" than the norm.

I would think that the split rings are appropriate for the light tackle Joel likes to fish.  I can't see one breaking at 6-8 pounds of pressure.  Joel's line will break before the split rings do.

-Allen

I've been lucky with freshwater fishing - haven't had a break-off (mono) in a long time.

In the Ocean scene - I've broken off many - with salmon especially - ask Stu  

I know fishing with light line is sporty, fun, and can often improve your chances for more hook-ups, but I hate the idea of going so light that you can only expect to reel in a small or average fish.

Why reduce your chance of landing a 40 lb salmon?... only to have it swim around with your Apex lure painfully hanging on it's lip.  Plus, those stainless steel hooks don't rust out that easily.

If you feel you must go with a thin diameter line, then consider Spectra.

Why reduce your chance of landing a 40 lb salmon?...

To land a 40 pound slamon with light line (15# mono or even lighter) is a major accomplishment in my book           I really don't mind losing fish with light line - it's part of the game. Don't get me wrong - I'd still get pissed if I lost a fish on light line

I've heard of a group of guys in HMB who strickly fish with 4 # mono for salmon = talk about skill and patience    

In fact, I'd like to fly line with bait on 12 # mono - if and when Linda Mar heats up again   That would be an epic battle  

I bet those HMB guys never landed a 40lb salmon on 4# test line.... and if they did it was pure luck because if a fish that big decides to make a strong run, you'll get spooled or broken off before ever having a chance to turn it.  That's just a fact.

In local lakes, I've caught 11# rainbow trout on 4# test, but I don't consider that much of an accomplishment when I'm battling an old sluggish fish.

My best is a 45# king salmon on 6# line ... in a river in Alaska.  And yes, I got lucky that it did not enter the main current and turn sideways.  It would have been bye bye salmon at that point.

-Allen